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The Truth About Griddles

Postby Fummoffu » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:23 am

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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby The.Time.Lord » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:28 am

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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby karauma » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:34 am

So yeah, sick fuckery.
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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby Havoc » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:43 am

I was sorta under the impression that BeeAre didn't want people talking about this. :unsure:
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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby karauma » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:47 am

He got a girl to show off itty-bitty-titty on cam.
If you like pantyshots in something illustrated, that's fine. But what he did is what we classify as pedophilia, not your garden variety lolicon.
If we aren't supposed to talk about this, if people aren't supposed to know, there's a problem.
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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby Hallow Nova » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:49 am

The rumors are counter to the article.

Those that have known the rumors before should know about this.
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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby Havoc » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:51 am

What were the rumors?
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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby Hallow Nova » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:53 am

From my knowledge, Grids was involved with strict laws that severely punished him for so much as viewing images from GT.

My word is only based off of hand me down takes. But this was my understanding for a while.
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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby karauma » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:53 am

That he was jailed because a girl claimed to be an adult, and was commissioned to do mature art by Griddles.
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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby Creppy Eggy » Sat Mar 01, 2014 3:03 am

What the fuck...
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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby OrangeBee » Sat Mar 01, 2014 3:40 am

I-I...Wait what?
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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby CTCFirebird » Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:09 am

Wait is that what Griddles really look like? And judging on what I'm reading about him, I'm like 'What the fuck?'
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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby Q.U. » Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:16 am

I'm not going to lock this thread. However, I want to ask that you refrain from throwing around too much hearsay/speculation on Grids' personal case when the details are not available. From what I've read under that link the reports, as usual, limit themselves to using general "guilty words" to describe what the crime was, without explaining the specifics and details.
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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby BeeAre » Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:23 am

:/ this was common knowledge, i thought.

i'll be abiding by Q.U.'s ultimatum on this.
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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby Birdofterror » Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:51 am

Huh.

Go figure. I'm the last person to demonize someone on this kind of thing, but usually if everyone suspects it, your hobbies include drawing little girls, and now you're facing charges (which in defense may prove to be false) it kind of seems overwhelming.

I mean, come on. Griddles has to be better than this. Doesn't he?
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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby Mir@k » Sat Mar 01, 2014 9:34 am

I don't personally like that you did this fummo.

And no br it was not.
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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby ULTRADJWEEN » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:43 am

Hold up, this is for real? He really did do something like that!?
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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby Saint Soul » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:55 am

*waits to see how this turns out*
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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby karauma » Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:54 pm

Q.U. wrote:From what I've read under that link the reports, as usual, limit themselves to using general "guilty words" to describe what the crime was

I first heard that all he'd done was commission some art from a young artist who hid her age, I thought that was pretty shitty and had jumped on the 'australian government sucks ass' bandwagon, and I wasn't convinced Until cam 'debasing' came into the picture. It's a generic word, but what exactly could be qualified as that when a cam is involved?
And Bird, he already plead guilty, outside of some kind of conspiracy, or him choosing to plead guilty and be imprisoned for a crime he did not commit, it's unlikely that he's innocent, and as Q.U. said, this thread isn't a place for wild speculation, so we should stick to the facts.
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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby Biostar » Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:02 pm

I can only find this amusingly ironic.
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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby Q.U. » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:33 pm

karauma wrote:I first heard that all he'd done was commission some art from a young artist who hid her age, I thought that was pretty shitty and had jumped on the 'australian government sucks ass' bandwagon, and I wasn't convinced Until cam 'debasing' came into the picture. It's a generic word, but what exactly could be qualified as that when a cam is involved?

Again, it's hard to say what the full nature of the crime was. I will not spread rumours about it since I do not know myself. What I meant by what I wrote is that the exact definition of these general descriptions makes the case murky at best for outsiders like us. And since it is Australia you have to account for that as well, since their definition of such crimes may simply be more vague/broad than they are in our countries. We are, after all, talking about South Australia, which came under fire and criticism before for banning adult consenting women with "small breasts" [sic] from producing (acting in) pornography, as it may be deemed looking like that of minors. So the boundaries of what could be considered illegal material may well be different than what we'd assume. Which is one of the reasons why speculation is pointless and I asked to refrain from it.

It is still a shame though, since as the articles mentioned, that's basically the end of any real career for him. Which is also why I agree with Mir here, sharing this stuff openly may be interesting to many, but it feels like shining spotlight on it is kind of a dick move nevertheless.
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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby karauma » Sat Mar 01, 2014 3:05 pm

Q.U. wrote:So the boundaries of what could be considered illegal material may well be different than what we'd assume. Which is one of the reasons why speculation is pointless and I asked to refrain from it.

It is still a shame though, since as the articles mentioned, that's basically the end of any real career for him. Which is also why I agree with Mir here, sharing this stuff openly may be interesting to many, but it feels like shining spotlight on it is kind of a dick move nevertheless.


Certainly, the waters are murky, but I think to call Fummo's actions a dick move is wrong.

He didn't state any kind of opinion, all he did was post a link to a page which is counter to common knowledge.
We've all bought things online, and we've all heard of Australia's ass-backwards views on censorship and morality, so it's natural to feel immensely sympathetic after hearing what supposedly happened to Griddles.

But the waters ARE murky, the idea of saying "Griddles wouldn't do something like that would he?" And "That bastard should burn in hell" are both flawed, and THAT is what this thread shows us.
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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby Havoc » Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:56 am

About a year ago, I was clicking around on DA, when I saw an article titled "Grids' goes to jail" or some shit like that. I chose to keep quit about it, though. I didn't think it was necessary/good to bring attention to this. Also I'm not one to gossip. I'm with Mir@k and Q.U. on this one; I'm a bit upset that Fummo did this. But I guess there's no sense in crying over spilled milk.
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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby NeoVersion7 » Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:15 pm

Biostar wrote:I can only find this amusingly ironic.


And I found this somewhat depressing. Oh well...
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Re: The Truth About Griddles

Postby Wulfespinndel » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:10 am

My God...it has come to this...I will abide by the moderators and be considerate of the individual and the current situation. However, considering the location of which he resides in, I happen to recall something about Australia's views towards child pornography itself. The views in my perspective seem rather unclear and inconsistent especially in the case of viewing anything from Grim Tales or other comics that seem to have some form of child pornography in it.
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