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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby Belwicket » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:03 am

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Belwicket wrote:I like SAO for the badass fights

There's like, 2 or 3. Only one I really liked in 24 episodes. They have an odd habit of skipping past the fights. I think more than half the episodes don't have any real fights. Most of the time is spent on people talking about their MMO predicaments.
and the cute anime girls!

Ugh. I just like to keep my anime and porn separate. Well, okay, that's not entirely true, but I prefer fan-service to waif-u!/harem pandering. Fan-service doesn't actually affect the plot, whereas something like SAO revolves around sexual wish-fulfillment for the male readers.

And that's your opinion. I still loved the fight when Kirito and Asuna beat a boss with basically just the 2 of them. I don't remember if or how much help they had.
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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby winterdrop » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:41 am

Hello I'm a newbie here. Nice meeting you all
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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby Vegedus » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:52 am

Likewise. Hope you enjoy your stay.
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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby winterdrop » Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:46 am

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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby Rival » Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:19 am

winterdrop wrote:cute violet hair
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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby Vegedus » Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:26 am

Winterdrop, if you want to show us a picture, you have to upload it to an imagehost like photobucket or google photos first, and THEN link it via the
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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby Rival » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:15 pm

August 23rd where I live, so Happy Birthday to Amaranthine Ali and Silver Samurai! Should they read it.
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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby TheLivingCouch » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:25 pm

Birthdays! Huzzah birthdays! Silver, Ali, wherever you may be, a very happy birthday to you both!
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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby Jay » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:47 am

Oh, new look is snazzy.
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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby Amaranthine Ali » Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:05 pm

Yo. Here I am in my once in a blue moon login. Thanks Rival and Couch. what's up?
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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby Belwicket » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:11 pm

Happy birthday, people! ^_^
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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby MQuinny1234 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:58 pm

New look is...eh.

I'm not a huge fan really. Also, happy late birthday Ali.
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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby Tuor » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:08 pm

If there are specific thing you'd like to be changed or added or whatnot, you can post your concerns here, or else make your own thread in the Dev forum
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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby MQuinny1234 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:13 pm

Thanks, but I've got nothing worth complaining about really.
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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby Guardian » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:32 pm

I'm getting more use to it.
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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby Cloud3514 » Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:27 am

Belwicket wrote:
Vegedus wrote:
Belwicket wrote:I like SAO for the badass fights

There's like, 2 or 3. Only one I really liked in 24 episodes. They have an odd habit of skipping past the fights. I think more than half the episodes don't have any real fights. Most of the time is spent on people talking about their MMO predicaments.
and the cute anime girls!

Ugh. I just like to keep my anime and porn separate. Well, okay, that's not entirely true, but I prefer fan-service to waif-u!/harem pandering. Fan-service doesn't actually affect the plot, whereas something like SAO revolves around sexual wish-fulfillment for the male readers.

And that's your opinion. I still loved the fight when Kirito and Asuna beat a boss with basically just the 2 of them. I don't remember if or how much help they had.


Yeah, this post is a week old, but the fact that SAO is regarded as the best anime of 2012 irks me to no end.

You want to know why Sword Art Online is criminally overrated and mediocre at best? Here are a few reasons:

1: Dreadful character development:

Let's look at Asuna for a second here because her "development" is the most egregiously written part of the show. When we first meet her, she is extremely shy an quiet. She's insecure about herself and barely agrees to group with Kirito for the first level raid. We then meet her again after some time has passed. She's become confident, independent and is second in command of the top guild. She even has a reputation among the players as one of the best players.

The problem is, we never see how this happened. We get a couple token explanations later (and I'll get to the one that implies that she only did anything because of Kirito), but we never see what happens after the first raid. What did she do after that? Who did she meet? How did she come into contact with members of the top guild? How did she rise in the ranks of that guild? What did she do to earn the respect of so many people? None of these questions are answered. I'd call it a violation of "show, don't tell," but we're not even TOLD about this.

Then we have Egil and Klein, who are two of seven characters in the entire first arc that are worth mentioning. Klein has no character development. At all. Egil is implied to have some development with an explanation of how he went against his own business ethics to help win a few mid level raids, but we're never shown what he did, only barely told. Why was this a big deal? After all, he's stuck in the game with everyone else. What made him do it if it is such a big deal? Again, these questions are never answered.

Character development in this show is awful. At best, it violates "show, don't tell," at worst, we either never even get an explanation or, as I'll explain in point #2, Kirito.

2: A blatant and almost laughable use of Women in Refrigerators:

Let's look at episode 3, which is easily the worst episode. Kirito encounters a group of players and befriends them, particularly Sochie, who is extremely insecure and the only girl in the group. They go on adventures and are shown trying to convince poor little Sochie to do things she's uncomfortable with, but she's so innocent and sweet that she lets them push her around. Kirito bonds with her because he doesn't try to make her do things she's not comfortable with. Then they drag poor Sochie into a high level area where all of them except Kirito die because they rushed into a hidden room with lots of monsters. Kirito blames himself for this because he lied about his level and was arrogant. He becomes so distraught over Sochie's death (and it is just Sochie, not the group as a whole) that he foolishly goes to fight a high level monster alone because angst, only for Klein, his guild and some other guild to save him.

First and foremst, we have the fact that all of them of no consequence what-so-ever except Sochie and that Kirito is only affected by Sochie's death. This means that Sochie was introduced ENTIRELY to develop Kirito. Women in refrigerators was coined by comic writer Gail Simone to describe this very thing. Sochie is portrayed as a potential love interest that caused Kirito to break out of his shell, only for everything to be crushed for no reason other than to give him angst.

Not to mention that Kirito is a fucking moron. He claims that Sochie died because he was “arrogant.” Except that he lied about his level because he didn't want to be seen as above the group, tried to keep them from going into the high level dungeon and tried to warn them aout the hidden room. It was the group that was arrogant, not him.

3: The unendingly awkward and creepy “romance” between Kirito and his goddamn cousin that was ultimately pointless in the first place due to being doomed from the start because Asuna:

That sentence should be enough to explain this point.

4: General misogyny:

Following the usage of women in refrigerators, we have a few other examples of egregious misogyny. First, why does literally every named female character except for one (who was the antagonist of episode 4) fall in love with Kirito? Is it because Kirito does good things for all of them? No. One of them is his cousin, who was raised along side him as a sister and two of them only meet him briefly. No, it is because the writer wanted him to have a harem and wrote it as awkwardly and hamhanded as possible.

Then there's the fact that Asuna is molested and nearly raped on screen no less than four times for no reason than to show that the second arc's villain is a psychopath and a horrible monster. Yeah, I really hope I don't have to explain why that's a problem.

5: The entire thing feels like little more than a .hack fanfic:

The premise is basically .hack without the weird supernatural elements. I like the twist that the story (at least for the first arc) is more about waging war against the GM, but aside from that one twist, there's nothing that really makes it stand out from being derivative of .hack.

6: Speaking of that interesting premise, the fact that it can't stick to that premise:

While episodes 4, 5 and 6, as well as the attempted social examination present in the whole show could have made interesting filler, the premise is decidedly about people trapped in a fantasy world where their only hope is to win a war against someone who is effectively god. And, in the first arc, which makes up 14 episodes, how many episodes are actually relevant to this premise? Seven or eight of them. Half of the show is either filler or non-filler that advances subplots. I commend the second arc for making sure that it sticks to its actual story, but that arc was ruined by the awful romance subplot that was pointless and doomed in the first place and the numerous moments of sexism.

That said, the show isn't outright terrible. The premise has promise and the animation and character designs are great, but I can't excuse anything with this many massive issues.
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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby Guardian » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:10 pm

How to best respond to such a post...
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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby Exodis » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:37 pm

Blood Lord wrote:How to best respond to such a post...

Tl;dr?
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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby Tuor » Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:08 pm

That'd just make BL a hypocrite
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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby Cloud3514 » Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:17 pm

Ok, what Pandora's box did I open this time?
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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby Sentios » Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:14 pm

All of them.

On a related note courtesy of /a/.

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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby Guardian » Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:27 pm

Tuor wrote:That'd just make BL a hypocrite

Hmm, yes. Indeed.

Cloud3514 wrote:Ok, what Pandora's box did I open this time?

Contray to belief, you didn't. Your post was... extremely detailed and passionate about a show that reminds me of why people say Twilight sucks. They would go off and destroy everything there was about the books/movies of Twilight, and the fans would just go "stfu we dunt car".

Your post was well written and it appears you at least gave the show a chance and struggled to consider putting a drill to the side of your head to end the torment. Plus it was long and those post draw me like a moth to a open flame But I can't really formulate a response to your post. I'm not even sure a fan of the show could formulate a response.

Honestly, I have no idea what the hell Sword Art Online is. I'm understanding its an anime, but that's really it.

So sorry guys. Nothing awe inspiring or destructive from me today.
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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby Belwicket » Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:05 pm

Cloud, I happen to like it because of reasons I cannot (or will not) explain do to difficulty and/or explicitness. You have your reasons for not liking it but that does not mean everyone agrees with you.
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Re: Welcome to the Weirdness

Postby MQuinny1234 » Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:17 pm

Bluh.

Question, I mention a few people here would know. I'm thinking about trying to join my university orchestra, but...my secondary school orchestra experience left a slightly negative view. Would Uni Orchestra's be..., in your opinion, decent? Anyone can answer obviously.
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