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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby Yamitora1 » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:00 pm

ari-6 wrote:I think she already failed, she isn't bringing the hand back anytime soon.

Blood Lord wrote:Yeah. I'm pretty sure Him is aware that Mimi has failed and doesn't care about it at the moment.


You miss understood what I was saying, I think HIM planed on her failing from the get-go. I think he knew sending her into Grim's Castle was like sending a kid whose allergic to bee stings into a bee farm covered in honey and pheromones that anger bees.

HIM is a self serving and calculating individual. If he knew it would further his goals in some way, he would stage a failure to secure the larger victory. To me, he is like a master chest player who sham sacrifices the Queen, only to have skillfully cleared the way for his Pawn to be promoted to a Queen and checkmate the King. HIM sham sacrificed his Queen, but he has a Pawn that is gearing up for a promotion.

Grim = ; Mandy = ; Grim Jr. = ; Minimandy = ; Lord Pain = ; HIM = ; Mimi = ; Jeff = & Chi =

While having the hand for his new hand would likely be something he would want, he is not without a backup plan b, plan c and all the other letters of the alphabet. He cut Mimi's hands off and gave her the claws she now has, those didn't come out of thin air; I'm pretty sure if he really needed one, he could make a new one. He probably just likes rocking the one hand pimp look for the time being.

He sent Mimi to Grim's Castle for a reason, the most obvious one might not be the real one. Pretty sure he sent his (no Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn part 1 pedo-wolf) smoking hot daughter to stir the young Grim Jr.'s emotions. There are two things most powerful in this world; Social Media Addiction and young hormones.
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby Guardian » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:10 pm

I don't think Him would have sacrificed a piece like that just yet. Especially looking at what he did to go through and get her, it was just too much. I know he is aware of it, he said he planned it and we have the comic page to prove it, but he doesn't really care about that right now as he said in the page.

I would think a more accurate description would be that he played his hands and got his Queen captured, but not killed nor out of the fight yet. Just stuck in a position where if she moves out too soon, she dies. Going off what you said, I think that she is there to distract not only Grim Jr, because he really doesn't matter that much right now, but to distract the whole family or at least put them in a sense of awareness. Having a Queen that close in your lines is going to distract you from the movements of other pieces.
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby MERASMUS! » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:14 pm

That symbiote might cause problems if it isn't part of Him's plan.
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby Guardian » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:19 pm

Mimi's symbiote? Bah. If anything, it will cause benefits for his side if he didn't plan for it. If it got out and merged with Minnie it would cause nothing but chaos behind the enemy lines. If he is counting on it or not, he might gain a better Queen that eliminates his old one, or they both kill each other, or everyone dies.
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby MERASMUS! » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:34 pm

A new queen! Thats what this could be all about! Him might've sent Mimi, not to get the Horrors hand. But to aquire a new queen. Mimi has shown to not be utterly loyal to Him. Him has witness Minnie's hatred which can be released under unique circumstances. Him would rather have a queen, not one to serve him out of fear of Him. But one that will out of hatred of his opponent. It makes so much sense now! This is more than likely what would happen. Why wouldn't anyone see this happening?
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby Yamitora1 » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:47 pm

TheMadDoctor wrote:A new queen! Thats what this could be all about! Him might've sent Mimi, not to get the Horrors hand. But to aquire a new queen. Mimi has shown to not be utterly loyal to Him. Him has witness Minnie's hatred which can be released under unique circumstances. Him would rather have a queen, not one to serve him out of fear of Him. But one that will out of hatred of his opponent. It makes so much sense now! This is more than likely what would happen. Why wouldn't anyone see this happening?

well, well, well; that is interesting. Here I thought Chi would factor in more, but it would serve HIM more to capture the White Bishop and maker her his new Black Queen. When I was a kid, we would use captured pieces from the other side. If I wanted a Rook, but still had both of my rooks on the board, I would use any captured pawn or better a captured rook with a piece of scotch tape on it. When I wanted a second, third forth, ect queen, I would use any captured bishops/rooks, with bishops being my favorite to use since their shape was closer to a queen than a rook or pawn.

All Chest metaphors/analogies aside, marring or at least making Mini his, would give HIM a direct line to Grim's throne/whatever he has. Its easy to take a throne by force, but marrying into it serves to cement the position and cause the kingdom's people to accept the new king more easily. That's at least what I've always been taught and from my understanding of history.
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby Guardian » Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:17 pm

Minnie also has the unique ability to control Jr's Nergal Demon.
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby MERASMUS! » Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:28 pm

I think that's another reason why Him would rather use Minnie instead of Mimi. It would be an interesting twist. Mimi becomes the good girl, and Minnie becomes Him's new servant. This would be gold.
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby Sigment » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:46 pm

Not saying that it will happen, but the elements are there for it to be a reasonable possibility.
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby DarkKing » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:53 pm

I wonder when Nergal will finally tell Junior about the history of the nergal demons and their ancestors. He said he would tell him if they managed to get out of the demon reaper.
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby MERASMUS! » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:55 pm

Sigment Kurosai wrote:Not saying that it will happen, but the elements are there for it to be a reasonable possibility.

You're right. But why, wouldn't it happen?
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby Rague » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:27 pm

Given how this comic sort of "gets off" on giving us morbid portrayals of these cartoon worlds... I find it just a bit jarring for Aku's breasts to be censored.

Call me a pervert, but given the sheer amount of underage panty shots, gore, vore, and all of the other squick in this comic, it's strange that the line is drawn at nipples.

Television I can understand, because it's popular belief that children are always watching and it's not worth the risk. Anybody reading this comic in length knows what pedophilia, satanism, sadism, Nazis, terrorism, 9/11, abortions, suicide, homicide, genocide, and all these things are.

Perhaps it's just an artistic choice? I mean, I'm not an artist, so I don't know if I'd do the Sailor Moon thing and skip drawing nipples.

Although, perhaps Female!Aku's demonic powers are warping the mists around her for modesty.
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby Guardian » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:44 pm

TheMadDoctor wrote:
Sigment Kurosai wrote:Not saying that it will happen, but the elements are there for it to be a reasonable possibility.

You're right. But why, wouldn't it happen?

Because Bleedman is an idiot.

Rague wrote:Given how this comic sort of "gets off" on giving us morbid portrayals of these cartoon worlds... I find it just a bit jarring for Aku's breasts to be censored.

Call me a pervert, but given the sheer amount of underage panty shots, gore, vore, and all of the other squick in this comic, it's strange that the line is drawn at nipples.

I think this is the funniest complaint I've heard all day, nay the week. And that isn't a compliment. Do you realize the shit that gets thrown when panty shots are thrown out? Can you imagine the shit storm that would fly if Aku was just sitting there, chilling with his legs wide open and no fog?

It's really not as bad of a comic that you are making out, and yes, there is a limit when it comes to frontal nudity with nipples. Basically, you summarized the why, but lets expand on it. I'm going to use a different aspect so this will be easier to understand. You are making a video game and you have the option to make it M rated or A rated. Should you go M rated you are going to be able to have a larger group of people buying your game, more companies will offer to sell it, and you can market it easier. An A rated game you can put whatever you want in it, however you are going to loose a very large chunk of support.

Now applying this to the comic, just by the common grouping of ratings, if you put nipples in this, it gets down graded into pornography. Dave will have none of that here. The rules of NSFW material on the site is strict.

Besides, have you seen Bleedman draw nipples? He sucks. They are kinda difficult to draw and get them to look right.

Rague wrote:Perhaps it's just an artistic choice? I mean, I'm not an artist, so I don't know if I'd do the Sailor Moon thing and skip drawing nipples.

When you draw a woman in the anime style, or just about every style, you don't add the nipples during the sketching process. Personally, I find the female figure to be the hardest, but most engaging thing to draw. for one, I'm a guy. Two, the curves are so annoying to do but so interesting at the same time because you have to get things to line up just right. guys are drawn out of blocks. It's so easy its not even fun. But a woman, there are so many curves, the breasts, the wast, dat ass, them legs, and then the hair. I don't think I have a square block at all on a female figure when I'm sketching them out.
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby MERASMUS! » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:52 pm

Blood Lord wrote:
TheMadDoctor wrote:
Sigment Kurosai wrote:Not saying that it will happen, but the elements are there for it to be a reasonable possibility.

You're right. But why, wouldn't it happen?

Because Bleedman is an idiot.

Fair point. But don't you think it would work well within the story? I think it would be a good complex plot twist.
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby Sigment » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:58 pm

Very much so. However, Minnie's motive would be jealousy of Mimi, rather than seeking overwhelming power.
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The only thing is, Minnie is (as far as I know) fully aware of the hand Him had (Pun oh so intended) in her capture during the Pumpkinator incident. I'm not quite sure she would be willing to defect to his side. At least, not immediately.
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby MERASMUS! » Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:05 pm

Minnie's jealosy can turn into hatred. And hatred for the enemy is very much what Him would want. He got Minnie to try to kill junior. He can do it again. If that symbiote finds it's way to Minnie, something scarier than what Minnie already is can be created.
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby Guardian » Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:17 pm

I think there are a few things that they could do to make some interesting plot twists. Will they do it or will we find ourselves stuck in another 2 year long battle?
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby MERASMUS! » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:30 am

Now we just need BeeAre to look at this, and see what insanity will come from him.

I think the really long battles prolong the plot to give time to plan what will happen next. But it puts the plot at a halt, and is very difficult to pull out. It's what people didn't like about sugarbits.
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby Sigment » Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:09 am

You do realize that BeeAre doesn't write for GT, don't you? Besides, how often the comics get updated is a matter of Bleedman's priorities. It has nothing to do with the writers. Most of Bleed's attention is focused on GT, therefore it is getting updated most often.
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby MERASMUS! » Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:12 am

I thought BeeAre made suggestions to Bleedman. I wondered why do there need to be extremely long, pointless, battles?
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby ari-6 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:17 pm

Blood Lord wrote:Because Bleedman is an idiot.

I didn't want to say anything because I was worried I might upset someone but before when I said I didn't think HIM was playing an elaborate chess game, it's not because I thought it wasn't his style, it was because I can't picture these stories getting that elaborate. You are all coming up with ideas about what might happen next and they all have a lot of thought behind them but I'm worried what actually happens might be a bit disappointing in comparison.

Blood Lord wrote: I don't think I have a square block at all on a female figure when I'm sketching them out.
You draw? What kind of stuff?
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby MERASMUS! » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:21 pm

I wasn't even trying to compare anything to a chess game. But an elaborate plot is what the comic needs.
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby ari-6 » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:25 pm

An elaborate plot would make it more engaging, I originally started reading this for the art style, then when the novelty of that wore off, the character designs.
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby MERASMUS! » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:33 pm

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Blood Lord wrote: I don't think I have a square block at all on a female figure when I'm sketching them out.
You draw? What kind of stuff?

He has a deviantart page. I don't know how often he uses it.
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Re: Relax, it's just bromance

Postby Thellos » Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:13 pm

That went about as well as could be expected.
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