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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby The Mad Doctor » Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:27 am

Ah, pacific rim sounds awesome too. Add that to the lists of must watches.
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby Rival » Sat Jun 08, 2013 4:49 pm

TheMadDoctor wrote:I'm very excited for the man of steel.

Rather than the movie itself, I'm more interested in how it'll do at the box office. I like DC more than Marvel. So since 'Murrica decided to go crazy about superhero movies for the next few years. I'd prefer more movies in the setting I like more. And whether Time Warner will do more, largely depends on how well Man of Steel will do. Green Lantern was a flop.
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby Exodis » Sat Jun 08, 2013 4:54 pm

Well when people see Man of Steel, they'll have the similar feeling of the Nolan's Batman trilogy and since those movies did astonishing on the box office (especially The Dark Knight), Man of Steel will probably do the same.
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby Whatis6times9 » Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:26 pm

The Green Lantern movie was an over budgeted nightmare. They hired Ryan Reynolds to obscure 96% of him with CGI and that is not even getting into the actual issues of the movie as far as direction, writing or acting(I've only seen a few minutes of the movie). The problem for DC is that they are a two horse race; Superman and Batman are 2 of the 5 most recognized american comic characters, but after that recognition falls off pretty dramatically. I'd have a hard time arguing that Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, or The Flash are in the same league of relevance Iron Man, The Hulk or Captain America were prior to their movies. I'd almost argue that it would have been better if DC skipped the Green Lantern movie, went straight for Man of Steel and then parlayed that and the Nolan series into a Justice League movie and spun off the characters from there into their own solo movies.

Man of Steel isn't a guaranteed blockbuster, it'll probably do better than The Green Lantern. But Superman is a widely known character, but not exactly a widely loved one.
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby Tuor » Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:29 pm

I've heard various rumours of a Wonder Woman movie over the years, but I have no idea if that will ever actually happen.
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby Whatis6times9 » Sat Jun 08, 2013 5:51 pm

They've been talking about trying to do something with Wondie for over a decade. The problem is that she's a hard character to make interesting, because if someone does the slightest bit controversial with her the cries of sexism can get overwhelming. DC and by extension WB has a hard time properly using their comics. They have a treasure trove of series between DC and Vertigo that they have never advanced out of some kind of preproduction nightmare.
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby Rival » Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:52 am

Randori wrote:Well when people see Man of Steel, they'll have the similar feeling of the Nolan's Batman trilogy and since those movies did astonishing on the box office (especially The Dark Knight), Man of Steel will probably do the same.

Actually, TDKR did better than TDK box office wise. Nolan isn't really a guarantee the movie will be successful. Ledger's death really boosted the popularity of TDK and since he was great as Joker, people had that hype going into TDKR. Batman Begins is just as good a movie as TDK, in my opinion it's even better, and it did a poorer box office than Superman Returns, which proves quality is less important than hype and marketing (cause Superman Returns is pretty universally considered lackluster).

Also, Nolan's style fit Batman, but it might not fit Superman and other DC heroes. Plus lets not forget, it's Snyder who's directecting and he's had some duds.
Whatis6times9 wrote:I'd have a hard time arguing that Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, or The Flash are in the same league of relevance Iron Man, The Hulk or Captain America were prior to their movies.

Hulk was on a higher level of relevance I agree, mostly because the series with Lou Ferrigno was a hit.

But I'd argue that Flash and Wonder Woman used to be easily above Iron Man in relevance, Flash and Wonder Woman had their own live-action series' Wonder Woman's was even pretty successful from what I recall. Iron-Man was really obscure before Robert Downey, Jr. came along.

Captain America was always a hard sell in Europe, but I guess in the USA his relevance always must have been far higher. But above WW? I'm not so sure.

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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby Whatis6times9 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:48 pm

From an American perspective, Captain America might be the most recognized characters in comics even by people who don't read comics. It's just that amongst comic readers he's not widely loved and Wondie kind of has the same issues. For the success and recognition of superhero movies I think some of it ties into 20 somethings who remember the mid 90s cartoon adaptations.

For the top 10 of recognized superheroes prior to the movies I'd list it like this: Superman, Batman, Spider Man, Captain America, Wolverine, Wonder Woman, Hulk, Iron Man, Flash and then Thor or Green Lantern are interchangeable for 10.
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby The Mad Doctor » Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:02 pm

Superman is on top. Try and figure out who elses debute comic issue can cost a fortune.
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby Whatis6times9 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:14 pm

The first appearance of Batman also goes for over a million in great condition. Any major character who debuted prior to WW2 seems to go about $100,000.
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby Rival » Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:25 am

Whatis6times9 wrote:For the top 10 of recognized superheroes prior to the movies I'd list it like this: Superman, Batman, Spider Man, Captain America, Wolverine, Wonder Woman, Hulk, Iron Man, Flash and then Thor or Green Lantern are interchangeable for 10.

Ah, I assumed it was: Superman, Batman, Spider Man, Wolverine, Hulk, Wonder Woman, Captain America, Flash, Iron Man and Thing.

But you live in the States, so your list is probably much closer to correct. Although recognition and relevance don't always go hand in hand. As you said, Supes and Cap, might be easily recognized, but they aren't really widely loved. Superman is easily the most recognizable Superhero globally, but Batman and Spider Man are the safest bets in terms of profits.
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby Mir@k » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:34 am

I'd like to see a justice league movie made well because if Reynolds is still in it then nothx..
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby The Mad Doctor » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:40 am

Green Lantern was advertised too much. I was walking in the subway during a trip to new york. There wasn't one spot without a green lantern poster. Even the stairs had ads for green lantern.
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby Mir@k » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:48 am

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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby Princess » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:28 pm

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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby Tuor » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:31 pm

Really? I've found it pretty good
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby Exodis » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:38 pm

Other than the "Quick Reply" glitch the phone-version is pretty good.
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby Mir@k » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:39 pm

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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby Princess » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:45 pm

I keep clicking on the wrong threads :(
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby Tuor » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:52 pm

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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby Rival » Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:52 pm

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I love watching 60's animated tv cartoons on youtube in general. There's always some comedy gold, be it voice acting, animation quality, writing, or all of the above:



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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby The Mad Doctor » Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:24 pm

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I love watching 60's animated tv cartoons on youtube in general.

then you get these on the internet.
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Re: General Chat Thread

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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby The Mad Doctor » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:45 am

I think the awkward shots and spiderman's self centered personality is what make them popular.
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby Morpheus » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:30 am

Stuffaluffagus wrote:I keep clicking on the wrong threads :(

I stopped using the phone version the day after it came out.
Just switch back to the desktop version.
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