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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll with a sketchbook

Postby Morpheus » Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:05 pm

I understand completely.
But if you really put so much focus on detail then continue to do so.
Someone once told me that you have to love the process.
Or do both, I think it would work either way.
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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll with a sketchbook

Postby Gigi » Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:53 am

*nods* agreed agreed

ok, heres a preview, for fun

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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll with a sketchbook

Postby Mimeme » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:30 am

Nice! I love how much each artwork expresses so much character and emotion :) Looking forward to see more from you.
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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll with a sketchbook

Postby G-O » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:42 pm

Very Nice, Morpheus is right, just keep on at it, You're getting there. If I had to nitpick anything it would just be the foreshortening, it's almost there so just keep on at it. The pencil line work looks great.
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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll with a sketchbook

Postby Morpheus » Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:10 pm

Love the coloring on this one.
Can't wait to see it finished.
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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll with a sketchbook

Postby Gigi » Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:28 am

anyone remember the old Beetlejuice cartoon from the 1990's?

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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll with a sketchbook

Postby Creppy Eggy » Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:42 am

That show was awesome. Don't remember the episodes... except for one where they're at the wild west... I think.
As I saw the creature, I was as white as an egg. I was so scared I might crack from fear. As the humanoid began to lunge after me, I was walking on egg shells from how scared I was. It grabbed me, took me to its station, and cracked me open. The last thing I saw were my yellow insides cooked on a pan. Human nature is as evil as a rotten egg.


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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll with a sketchbook

Postby Brax4 » Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:04 am

Whoa, those are crazy. So much detail! :O
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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll with a sketchbook

Postby not rockwell » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:44 am

Hi gigi, nice to see your still posting! nice work too!
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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll with a sketchbook

Postby Morpheus » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:59 pm

You haven't lost your touch at all.
Looks beautiful.
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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll with a sketchbook

Postby Gigi » Thu May 30, 2013 10:57 pm

Randori wrote:That show was awesome. Don't remember the episodes... except for one where they're at the wild west... I think.


I know right. I am so on an classic cartoon kick right now. They were so exquisitely morbid in some cases. I miss non pc cartoons

Brax4 wrote:Whoa, those are crazy. So much detail! :O


ahh, Ta Luv. Been working hard to start incorporating more angles and dynamic detailing...still not quite there yet...alas

not rockwell wrote:Hi gigi, nice to see your still posting! nice work too!


and its nice to see you too my dear friend. you are far too kind as always *chu*

Morpheus wrote:You haven't lost your touch at all.
Looks beautiful.


You are an absolute doll. thank you luv- and I love the new profile pic!!
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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll with a sketchbook

Postby Gigi » Thu May 30, 2013 11:00 pm

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More B.J stuff, because i'm becoming obsessed. Inspired by The-Fabulous-Person's fic "Why Can't My Life Ever Be Simple?". fantastic movie/cartoon hybrid
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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll with a sketchbook

Postby Brother Orin » Thu May 30, 2013 11:02 pm

Loving the Beetlejuice art, Well done, I never followed the TV series, but the movie was one of my favorites.
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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll with a sketchbook

Postby Morpheus » Fri May 31, 2013 8:41 pm

Gigi, the feeling you put into this is amazing.
Anf the way you get your cross hatching to be so clean is beyond me.
And thanks.
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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll with a sketchbook

Postby Bboy DrMadison » Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:38 am

I wanted to do a Beetle/Lydia pic, but I could never settle on a character design!
I love this style.
Things weren't "Better back in the day!"... Trust me... I was there.
We just don't know how good we have things until they're "Different".
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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll with a sketchbook

Postby Thy Obsessive Freak » Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:53 am

Dude awesome as Cheese on toast. It's made me want to read the fanfic now if you don't mind me saying.
Anyone want ta take look at my own comic?

http://walrusm3.deviantart.com/

The art's quite modest, but I'm told the story's fun.
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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll with a sketchbook

Postby Gigi » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:12 am

Brother Orin wrote:Loving the Beetlejuice art, Well done, I never followed the TV series, but the movie was one of my favorites.


Ta luv! I always loved them both for very different reasons. I just miss some of the older cartoons, and no its not because i grew up on them. they just had a lot more 'bite' so to speak.

Morpheus wrote:Gigi, the feeling you put into this is amazing.
Anf the way you get your cross hatching to be so clean is beyond me.
And thanks.


*sigh* as much as i long to be a digital artist i think i'm finally coming to terms with the fact that my sketch work (the crosshatching and shading ect) is really the strongest part of what i do, so i've stopped fighting it. I am pleased to hear that it works though. Now if i could just find a coloring technique that works for it.

Bboy DrMadison wrote:I wanted to do a Beetle/Lydia pic, but I could never settle on a character design!
I love this style.


They are deceptively hard to draw! I must have gone through at least two dozen draft incarnations before i finally started to settle on something. even then, this is the first one that i think actually works, you know? I'm still incredibly inconsistent with them too >.< anyroad, keep trying, you'll find something if you keep experimenting!

WalrusM3 wrote:Dude awesome as Cheese on toast. It's made me want to read the fanfic now if you don't mind me saying.


mmm...toasty cheese...

im sorry...what.......oh yes

cheers luv, and it is an awesome fic if you get a chance to look it up. A bit of a guilty pleasure read you might say, but her adaptation of Beej is (in my opinion) just about the funniest I've come across. some of the best one liners, incredibly crass, and as always perverted as sin.
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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll with a sketchbook

Postby Morpheus » Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:42 am

You could try color pencil.
If it's any consolation I thought your digital coloring always looked good as well.
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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll with a sketchbook

Postby Gigi » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:58 pm

World premiere right here...

Two new characters (though they've had more then a fair share of "burton" influence...wonder why). They still need names, but I've been calling the man "Coyote" and the girl "rabbit/bunny" in my head.

On a technical note, don't know how I feel about ipad...it's just not as user friendly as paper and pencil.

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Questions? Thoughts? Name ideas?
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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll with a sketchbook

Postby Gigi » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:02 pm

Morpheus wrote:You could try color pencil.
If it's any consolation I thought your digital coloring always looked good as well.


Really? Well thank you. I just never felt like I could get the kind of coloring depth via digital that I know others can. That and I like working by hand too much. Maybe I'll give those pencils of color a go

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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll with a sketchbook

Postby Morpheus » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:21 pm

I think it'll look good no matter what you'll go into to be honest.
But if you really think you're not getting that feeling then try reading on it abit.
Also, I love the stare you've given these characters.
Its like there in sync.
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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll with a sketchbook

Postby Gigi » Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:01 pm

love you!! you just made my day with that last post. yes, the two are very much on the same wavelength and i'm doing a little jig at the though that it actually came through in the drawing. I having the hardest time settling on a look for them, particularly for "coyote". I might scan and post a few more doodles to try and see which ones people think work best.
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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll in need of advice

Postby Gigi » Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:10 pm

ok, Morpheus gave me the idea, and I hope you all don't mind me asking everyone for help. As i said, i'm developing some new characters and i could really use some outside eyes. Still no names, so i will just continue to call them Coyote and Rabbit- and I cant quite get the look right on either of them. so, i'm going to through up some of the concept doodles (most of them i HATE) and I would love to hear what people think, what they like, what don't work, and even some things they think they would like to see (be it in their personalities or their story)

lets start with Rabbit, shall we?

Ok, so Rabbit is 10 years old when the story starts, but i imagine she will grow up as the story goes on. Very long (and sketchy) story short, our shy little heroin dies...well was supposed to die, but ends up trapped 'in-between' thanks to Coyote's interference.
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Concept sketch for a possible holloween costume Rabbit wears the night she dies. The idea is the dress become the base for whenever she 'crosses over'. needs more work.
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And now Coyote (who needs alot of work!!!)

Coyote is a Loe (a ghost/spirit) without a 'house' or family to attach himself too. He is the bane of many of the established houses, particularly Baron Samedi who he would have served if he hadn't found a loophole in the contract. Coyote is a trickster, a lowlife, an ass-hat, and an all around not nice guy, but he gets inadvertently tied up with Rabbit and begins to hatch a plan of how he can be free of his few remaining ties to the Spirit world and wreak havoc once again.

here are the earliest doodles of Coyote
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Some more sketches, that i just don't like, but it gives you a better look at his evolving details. I didn't like the two eye's at first, but its starting to grow on me.
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and here are the two sketches that so far, seem the most "right" to me.
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best picture (I think)
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AND just for fun, here are two other quick unfinished doodles of Coyote and Rabbit together.

Early doodle. I don't think Coyote and Rabbit get along at first. or maybe for a long time...
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and a really sketchy doodle
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SO! now that I've unloaded all this on everyone, what do you think. any ideas are welcome...really, i'm at a stand still and awfully frustrated because hell, they are both kind of growing on me, you know, and i hate to think they would go without even having a solidified look, you know?
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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll in need of advice

Postby Brax4 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 1:39 pm

These all look pretty awesome to me. As for character development, it takes time. Years even.

I think you're going the right direction with them. They seem to have a lot of personality and chemistry as side by side characters. I think you're doing just fine.

I personally like the idea of them not getting along at first, it's more realistic, they just seem like two people that should never be friends. Which makes for a good story.
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Re: Gigi: Ragdoll in need of advice

Postby Morpheus » Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:13 pm

I love these characters.
The backstory you've given them is fantastic.
The look in the first set of sketches of rabbit is amazing.
Especially the in the top right corner and Halloween costume.
With coyote I can't decide which way I like him the best his but I the sketches where he looks more out of control.
And the last two drawings are just amazing.
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