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Re: The Bleedthread - Official Forum Lounge.

Postby Havoc » Thu May 16, 2013 1:20 am

I've always wonder something. In soul form, Minnie looked a lot better. So Why did they even need to put Minnie's soul back in her body? Why not just keep her in soul form? It just seems like a better choice to me.

Teran wrote:I always thought Mimi's evil essence would find it's way to Minnie, turning her human again. It would eventually take its toll on her though.

It would be very interesting to see, what would she look like, and who would be in control, Minnie or the symbiote.
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Re: The Bleedthread - Official Forum Lounge.

Postby Teran » Thu May 16, 2013 1:22 am

Ah, she's such a passionate character, and if you ask me, the perfect vessel for that evil essence, it's really worth watching. It would be like Venom and Spider-Man again. At first she's in control, but the essence corrupts her slowly, until it's too late.
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Re: The Bleedthread - Official Forum Lounge.

Postby MQuinny1234 » Sat May 18, 2013 8:00 pm

I remember when this thread was the part of the sub-forum where talking about bleed here got you banned.

Ah, the years go by.
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Re: The Bleedthread - Official Forum Lounge.

Postby Teran » Sat May 18, 2013 8:25 pm

I always found that a little extreme. Glad things have changed.
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Postby MQuinny1234 » Sat May 18, 2013 8:50 pm

I dunno. Good trap for the stubborn ass nutbags to deliberately throw themselves into.
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Re: The Bleedthread - Official Forum Lounge.

Postby Teran » Sun May 19, 2013 12:12 am

It's not like we need a thread, or like you refer to it, a "bait", to attract them. Wouldn't that defy the purpose of this thread in the first place?
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Re: The Bleedthread - Official Forum Lounge.

Postby Blood Lord » Sun May 19, 2013 1:17 am

I thought the new rule was good for this forum, especially when we are trying to promote growth and make the site more friendly. Glad to have changed it, amongst other things.
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Re: The Bleedthread - Official Forum Lounge.

Postby Havoc » Sun May 19, 2013 1:37 am

Yeah, I never made any sense to me. Why would you put a "Don't Talk about Bleedman" thread, in the Bleed Forum?
I mean, if you wanted to make an anti-Bleedman lounge, wouldn't make more sense to put it in the General Discussion forum?
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Re: The Bleedthread - Official Forum Lounge.

Postby Mir@k » Sun May 19, 2013 3:07 am

Correct me if i'm wrong, but when people have no knowledge of something, they usually shouldn't be talking about that subject as if they knew shit.

Story time.

Back when the site in it's entirety didn't suck (circa 2006-2009) and we had at the very least 80 users actively posting on this forum at all times, there was so much bleedman talk on this forum that people were starting to get sick about not being able to talk about things other than bleedman, because a general rule of thumb was to follow the topic discussions as required and since 99% of the threads on the forum were about bleedman members needed a place to talk in that excluded the continous bleedman topic-bombings going around, and that was still permitted to stay on this forum instead of it being driven to spam (which back then was a real hellhole, nowadays is practically the only place you'll find people worth talking to); A sort of "club" was founded for people to do this very thing.

For quite a long time (we're talking years here, the exact amount of time i don't know because this happened even when i was not a moderator and i wasn't really paying attention to the important bits of the forum back then) the thread was a brilliant success. One could hold decent conversations without adding sugary tits and degrading our collective IQ's by debating with dense kinds whose own opinion was the only thing that mattered. Sometimes we'd get one or two newbies that mistook the thread's purpose, but nothing that couldn't be talked out. The rule was set in place when it got to the point that lots of people would not understand that the thread was for people sick of discussing bleedman shit the good way and not another extension of the predictions thread (something that this very thread represents sometimes, ironically) which, unlike what people think, was a thread designed for the purpose of discussing bleedman's comics in general. Predictions were a massive thing about it, yes (it's even on the first page), but since most discussions about the comics fell one way or the other under the definition of "predictions", it was the metaphorical "bleedman comics general" thread (that's where the bleedblog thing enters, not that anyone cares if it's being updated anymore as bleedman does the same on his deviantart).

People assume the rule was there from the beggining but it was only placed there when talking to people nicely started not being sufficient to stop the waves of retards from derailing the thread, but nowadays the general consensus (from people that matter) is that currently, the forum has gone to shit in terms of activity (thanks to the glorious neglect of the webmaster and the brutally irresponsible comic schedules), so due to the declining activity there is no longer the need to keep the rule in place. I consider it giving a dying man some comfort before his inevitable death, which makes sense if you think about it.
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Re: The Bleedthread - Official Forum Lounge.

Postby Blood Lord » Sun May 19, 2013 1:58 pm

Call it what you will. Still new here.

Anyways, I still agree with Havoc on this. Also adjusted the frount page so people would understand that this isn't meant to be a second predictions thread, just that you have more freedom here than before.
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Re: The Bleedthread - Official Forum Lounge.

Postby Birdofterror » Mon May 20, 2013 3:17 pm

Well when it comes to the more abstract rules like the absolute contradiction like the "Don't talk about Bleedman" in the Bleedman section, the justification for such a rule needs to be explained because without more information (The information you gave on its history) it makes absolutely no sense.

But the fact is that I think people have simply gotten tired of explaining it. It's not a matter that it's changed or that the forum is too old or "dying" to enforce it any longer, it's just that the people who enforced it didn't care anymore to ever explain it again.

(Although of course the absolute lack of traffic may have been the leading cause.)

When new people come in, they have to be told that thing, because I think if you were to get a million people of varying IQs and various backrounds that NONE of them would dig deep enough to figure out exactly why that rule was there. Not ONE. I would actually bet money on it.

But, now it's gone. It was an odd rule instated when this Forum was in its golden age (Oddly enough brought on BY Bleedman, who is now the only one even keeping it alive for anyone who hasn't been here for 5+ Years) that is now gone. So, meh. The thread started off well enough, but I don't think anyone knows what to do with it yet. I sure as fuck don't.

Now spam is a good 90% of the forum to the point that even new posters have put their 'Salutations' threads in there. Maybe I have a foggy memory, but I don't really remember that happening much... or ever. But now here it is. Since Bleedman is the only source of anything 'new' here anymore, the only things worth talking about are Bleedman and Offtopic things not relevant to the Forum as a whole. Such as News, Gaming and current events to name a few which kinda defeat the purpose of discussing them here to anyone who doesn't have personal friends here in the first place.

So... is there ever going to be anyone else to replace the dead comics up there? Or is it going to be Bleedman and only Bleedman?

(The other couple of comics that update once every six months need not apply.)
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Re: The Bleedthread - Official Forum Lounge.

Postby Rival » Mon May 20, 2013 5:50 pm

Birdofterror wrote:But, now it's gone. It was an odd rule instated when this Forum was in its golden age (Oddly enough brought on BY Bleedman, who is now the only one even keeping it alive for anyone who hasn't been here for 5+ Years) that is now gone. So, meh. The thread started off well enough, but I don't think anyone knows what to do with it yet. I sure as fuck don't.
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Now spam is a good 90% of the forum to the point that even new posters have put their 'Salutations' threads in there. Maybe I have a foggy memory, but I don't really remember that happening much... or ever. But now here it is. Since Bleedman is the only source of anything 'new' here anymore, the only things worth talking about are Bleedman and Offtopic things not relevant to the Forum as a whole. Such as News, Gaming and current events to name a few which kinda defeat the purpose of discussing them here to anyone who doesn't have personal friends here in the first place.

Bunch of revisionism and/or poor research in these 2 paragraphs:

1) 2004-2007 was pretty much constant growth of the forums, it peaked shortly after Battle of Megaville got released on Newgrounds, but I wouldn't really call that a "golden age", highest activity doesn't mean best quality, Bleedman section and spam had a ton of shit-posting going on, especially during the Megaville Flood.

2) It's beyond silly to give the sole credit for "bringing on a golden age" to Bleedman, people joined for many reasons, the newgrounds game, Everafter, Snafu, TIN, many didn't even join due to comics. The RP section was pretty famous for a time and many people joined only to participate in it, ask Tuor.

3) Other than the Bleedman section, most sections did not focus prrimarily on discussing the Comics that named its section. Outside of the Bleedman section, most threads focused on "News, Gaming and current events" just like now, only difference being that with more activity those threads were more fun.

4) In no way is Spam nowadays 90% of forum activity. Even if we only count Spam and Bleedman, Spam has on average 7-9 topics that get posted in a day, Bleedman has 4-5. 9 is not 90% of 13 and that's just two sections.
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Re: The Bleedthread - Official Forum Lounge.

Postby Birdofterror » Mon May 20, 2013 10:50 pm

/shrug
Rival wrote:It's beyond silly to give the sole credit for "bringing on a golden age" to Bleedman
Oh, I'm sure everyone and everything combined into a perfect storm, but I'd be fucked before I deny that Bleedman wasn't the single heaviest player to give credit to. Hell, Snafu had a comic complaining that everyone at Comic-Con thought they were Bleedman, haha.
Rival wrote:the newgrounds game,
It wouldn't be too asinine of me to count the game under the same guise as "Bleedman" would it? Because I'm counting the game as Bleedman.
Rival wrote:Everafter, Snafu, TIN, many didn't even join due to comics. The RP section was pretty famous for a time and many people joined only to participate in it, ask Tuor.
Once again, I'm sure the other comics helped people come in for a time, but they don't any more. AT ALL. They are all done, finished, dead. Bleedman has been the one single constant in this forum other than the people who stayed with it since the beginning.
Rival wrote:Other than the Bleedman section, most sections did not focus primarily on discussing the Comics that named its section.
Well Digital Purgatory was nuked and Snafu section was reformed to Snafu General- no longer about the comics anymore. It's just the "everything" section- you know... other than Spam.

Which now that I think about it kind of makes it redundant.
Rival wrote:In no way is Spam nowadays 90% of forum activity. Even if we only count Spam and Bleedman, Spam has on average 7-9 topics that get posted in a day, Bleedman has 4-5. 9 is not 90% of 13 and that's just two sections.
Per day in Bleedman, the Pony thread gets about... what- 5 posts? The most recent Bleed Comic gets one a day on a slow day, three a day on a good day and the second most recent gets about one every two days. The Pokemon thread gets a post every month and the Prediction thread is way too erratic to give a solid number. But I'd hover close to one per two days. Hell, even this thread was frozen for like two weeks.

The spam General Chat can double all of this in a single day easy. :unsure:

Look, I'm not trying to say you're wrong or even trying to say I'm right, I'm just saying that I think Bleedman is the only thing keeping NEW people coming in, even through advertisement of mouth to friends and family. Everything else stagnated, even the 'golden' RP section.

Though I would have loved to have gotten involved in an RP a long time ago...

Now I'm sad.
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Re: The Bleedthread - Official Forum Lounge.

Postby Blood Lord » Tue May 21, 2013 12:45 am

He is the reason why a lot of people are coming to the site. I joined because of his comics, but my reasons for staying changed.

We have a few plans for getting more people in, but the best right now is word-of-mouth and getting more people in to continue to build the community, even getting the old members back is as important. If you guys got any ideas for increasing the amount, go for it. It just can't be something like "get new comics".

Speaking of this, I have several things I am neglecting.
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Re: The Bleedthread - Official Forum Lounge.

Postby Birdofterror » Tue May 21, 2013 1:09 am

Blood Lord wrote:It just can't be something like "get new comics".
Blood Lord wrote:Speaking of this, I have several things I am neglecting.
Oh boy, NEW COMICS?!
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Re: The Bleedthread - Official Forum Lounge.

Postby The Mad Doctor » Tue May 21, 2013 5:21 am

Birdofterror wrote:
Blood Lord wrote:It just can't be something like "get new comics".
Blood Lord wrote:Speaking of this, I have several things I am neglecting.
Oh boy, NEW COMICS?!

No, I think he was just saying he has a few things on deviantart that he's neglecting.
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Re: The Bleedthread - Official Forum Lounge.

Postby Rival » Tue May 21, 2013 6:59 am

Yeah I doubt Blood Lord has any influence on adding new comics to the site.
Birdofterror wrote:Oh, I'm sure everyone and everything combined into a perfect storm, but I'd be fucked before I deny that Bleedman wasn't the single heaviest player to give credit to. Hell, Snafu had a comic complaining that everyone at Comic-Con thought they were Bleedman, haha.

He brought the most members, but people who came for Snafu, Everafter or RP had a far higher tendency to stick around and not leave after one or two posts. So giving Bleedman sole credit for the time when the forum had the highest activity was silly, if you had said he was the main source of new members I wouldn't have had any problem with that statement. Because I remember how many welcoming threads in the Bleedman section I had to reply to in 2006, there were tons.
Birdofterror wrote:It wouldn't be too asinine of me to count the game under the same guise as "Bleedman" would it? Because I'm counting the game as Bleedman.

Sure count it as Bleedman, his stuff was the inspiration for the game, but don't count it only as Bleedman. Had the game been poor or located on a different site, it wouldn't have brought 1/4 of the people it did. So the game creator and newgrounds' popularity contributed largely as well. Giving credit solely to Bleedman makes it seem like the game's quality was irrelevant, which it wasn't.
Birdofterror wrote:Once again, I'm sure the other comics helped people come in for a time, but they don't any more. AT ALL. They are all done, finished, dead. Bleedman has been the one single constant in this forum other than the people who stayed with it since the beginning.
I'm not denying the current state, all of my previous post was arguing your sweeping generalizations about the past.
Birdofterror wrote:Snafu section was reformed to Snafu General- no longer about the comics anymore. It's just the "everything" section- you know... other than Spam.

Which now that I think about it kind of makes it redundant.

It always was an everything section, discussing the comics wasn't even 5% of the section's activity at any point. And that was/is good. What made most people in 2005-2009 stick around on the forums were Snafu section (discuss everything, but don't spam), RP and Spam (discuss everything just don't post porn or link viruses/malware). So 2 of 3 were different flavors of general discussion hubs (RP had Weirdness so it also kind of counts). Bleedman section was always supposed to be an "everything" section, too, that's why cartoon and dc/marvel related threads pop-up if you search the history. But the Bleedman section regulars focused mostly on discussing the comics despite this being intended as a general hub, which is why the Bleedman section was always behind Snafu, RP and Spam (once it came to be) sections in activity during the 2005-2009 time. Because to most people, most discussion being about 2-3 comics, gets boring after a while.

So having more than 1 general hub is not redundant, or at least it wouldn't be with more activity. Different flavors of general hubs, is what made people stick around, and what made this forum flourish in the past.
Birdofterror wrote:Per day in Bleedman, the Pony thread gets about... what- 5 posts? The most recent Bleed Comic gets one a day on a slow day, three a day on a good day and the second most recent gets about one every two days. The Pokemon thread gets a post every month and the Prediction thread is way too erratic to give a solid number. But I'd hover close to one per two days. Hell, even this thread was frozen for like two weeks.

The spam General Chat can double all of this in a single day easy. :unsure:

I don't visit the pony thread, but even I know it's off-season. Once Hasbro releases its "We really, really badly want our own Bratz/Monster High, so here's ponies as humans and dragons as dogs" movie, I should imagine it'll clock at least a page per day.

And comparing Spam post activity wise to other sections is silly, because in Spam you can have half a page of one word posts or one guy posting 4 times in a row and it's totally fine. In fact, back in 2007 when Spam was a hellhole and not the decent place it is today, it outnumbered other sections post wise far more.

For the record I'm not denying Spam is undoubtedly the most active section. Just the 90% stat you came up with, what actually matters in activity is not posts, but the amount of people posting regularly. Spam has 10-15 people posting each day, Bleedman has 5-8, it just isn't 90%.
Birdofterror wrote:Look, I'm not trying to say you're wrong or even trying to say I'm right, I'm just saying that I think Bleedman is the only thing keeping NEW people coming in, even through advertisement of mouth to friends and family. Everything else stagnated, even the 'golden' RP section.

Fair enough, just don't make sweeping generalizations about a time when you weren't there and don't come up with indefensible stats (statistics are serious business, 40% of all people know that) and you'll find me a much more agreeable and amicable person.
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Postby Teran » Thu May 23, 2013 12:19 am

Jack & Jill is probably the worst movie I've seen in my whole life.

The ironic part is that when a movie receives negative reviews, people want to watch it even more. Pretty much the one and only reason The Last Airbender didn't bomb. You've got to give some credit to Shyamalan, he released the movie the same week Twilight 3 (Ecipse) was released, the movie got terrible reviews, and he managed to recover all the budget anyway.
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Postby Exodis » Thu May 23, 2013 12:24 am

Jack & Jill was so horrible the movie actually got all the awards from 2011's Razzies Awards.
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Postby Blood Lord » Thu May 23, 2013 12:29 am

For some reason I was thinking of the Hansel and Gretel movie.
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Postby Teran » Thu May 23, 2013 12:35 am

Al Pacino's performance was decent, like if the guy thought he could save the movie. Well, he has appeared in both the best and the worst movies: The Godfather and Jack & Jill.

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Postby Exodis » Thu May 23, 2013 12:36 am

Blood Lord wrote:For some reason I was thinking of the Hansel and Gretel movie.

I heard that movie was okay. Nothing special, really. Just a twist in the fable.
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Postby Havoc » Thu May 23, 2013 12:37 am

Teran wrote:The ironic part is that when a movie receives negative reviews, people want to watch it even more. Pretty much the one and only reason The Last Airbender didn't bomb.

Why is that so? Is it reverse psychology, or are people just plain stupid?

Randori wrote:Jack & Jill was so horrible the movie actually got all the awards from 2011's Razzies Awards.

Basing a live-action, over the top movie around a child's fairy tale, is just a bad idea all together in my opinion.
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Re: The Bleedthread - Official Forum Lounge.

Postby Teran » Thu May 23, 2013 12:38 am

Havoc751 wrote:
Teran wrote:The ironic part is that when a movie receives negative reviews, people want to watch it even more. Pretty much the one and only reason The Last Airbender didn't bomb.

Why is that so? Is it reverse psychology, or are people just plain stupid?
I'll go with reverse psychology.
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