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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby AkuTenshiiZero » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:15 pm

askura wrote:Mandy is the human half...

Of course, she's an immortal human, but a human nonetheless.


To be clear, she's only immortal because Grim refuses to reap her. It's kind of like never being fired from a job because you married the boss. So in truth there really isn't anything special about Mandy, just that Grim wont kill her. And by extension, everyone residing at Castle Grimskull.

Interestingly, I thought I had found a plot hole because I remember Minnie had died, but in looking back at it Junior reaped her soul. But that still doesn't explain how she couldn't recover from dismemberment. Mandy healed in seconds after slitting her own throat, Lord Pain took an axe to the face like a champ, I guess there's a limit to how much damage they can recover from?

Come to think of it, how many characters in the underworld have died without Grim's involvement? Shouldn't he have shown up for Jeff when he was decapitated by Him? Did he reap Nergal's soul with his son standing [i]right there?[i] Huh. What a jerk.
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby askura » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:29 pm

AkuTenshiiZero wrote:
askura wrote:Mandy is the human half...

Of course, she's an immortal human, but a human nonetheless.


To be clear, she's only immortal because Grim refuses to reap her. It's kind of like never being fired from a job because you married the boss. So in truth there really isn't anything special about Mandy, just that Grim wont kill her. And by extension, everyone residing at Castle Grimskull.

Interestingly, I thought I had found a plot hole because I remember Minnie had died, but in looking back at it Junior reaped her soul. But that still doesn't explain how she couldn't recover from dismemberment. Mandy healed in seconds after slitting her own throat, Lord Pain took an axe to the face like a champ, I guess there's a limit to how much damage they can recover from?

Come to think of it, how many characters in the underworld have died without Grim's involvement? Shouldn't he have shown up for Jeff when he was decapitated by Him? Did he reap Nergal's soul with his son standing [i]right there?[i] Huh. What a jerk.


Reaping is Grim's job; regardless of who it is, if it's their time it's their time and he must do what he can to reap their soul.

That said, people CAN cheat death, or get away from Grim. The biggest example is in Big Boogey Adventure when Skarr continues to live because he gets away from Grim. According to Grim, people manage to get away from him often.

Mandy is the only exception because Grim loves her and is also married to her, and like you said, refuses to reap her. Of course, the first chapters of Grim Tales came out before Big Boogey Adventure, so of course bleedman didn't know that someone could live after sustaining unhealing fatal injuries if Grim failed to reap them and probably didn't want mandy walking around with a scar in her neck anyway (although that would have been hella cool).

Because Minnie officially died, was reaped, and then brought back to life, her injuries didn't heal and she became a ragdoll. Skarr on the other hand apparently never lost the gaping hole in his stomach from BBA because he was never reaped, and therefore didn't "die" even though his time had come.
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby JunSama » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:02 am

askura wrote:Yes, but Ikra was Aku pretending to be a completely different person to trick Jack. She was a temporary persona, an alias.

If she was simply Aku pretending to be a Blossom-looking loli, why would he change all his visiboards to show advertisements of Chi, while leaving the statue of himself in the center of the city intact? Aku loves himself too much to change his default form, which he's had for hundreds, if not thousands of years.

Furthermore, if Aku was using Chi's form to interact with Mimi for some reason, why would he maintain that form in the privacy of his home, rather than just using it when he's with Mimi?


Because evil that once ruled the world for over a thousand years does not simply go into retirement without going through some heavy psychological experiences?

Experiences which could have very reasonably caused him to undergo a very drastic personality change. And there's no reason that split/multiple-personalities would be excluded from the potential end results.
And Aku is capable of multi-tasking; he can split himself and have one half be retired-Aku-daddy and another be the needy-Aku/Chi-daughter.

Or in other words:
Aku went super mega cra-cra~



It's not that unreasonable. I'm sure most of us have seen/read weirder things.

askura wrote:Because Minnie officially died, was reaped, and then brought back to life, her injuries didn't heal and she became a ragdoll. Skarr on the other hand apparently never lost the gaping hole in his stomach from BBA because he was never reaped, and therefore didn't "die" even though his time had come.


What the hell are you talking about here?

Her injuries aren't even worth mentioning because they never tried to bring her back in her original body.
She became a ghost and then took possession of a rag-doll corpse. And that may not even necessarily mean she's back to life. She could just be overshadowing it, danny-phantom style.

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Speaking of which, slight off-topic, I do so hope Danny Phantom shows up in PPGD.
Or maybe Dani... Yes! Dani! She would make a perfect recurring character.
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby askura » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:38 am

JunSama wrote:
askura wrote:Yes, but Ikra was Aku pretending to be a completely different person to trick Jack. She was a temporary persona, an alias.

If she was simply Aku pretending to be a Blossom-looking loli, why would he change all his visiboards to show advertisements of Chi, while leaving the statue of himself in the center of the city intact? Aku loves himself too much to change his default form, which he's had for hundreds, if not thousands of years.

Furthermore, if Aku was using Chi's form to interact with Mimi for some reason, why would he maintain that form in the privacy of his home, rather than just using it when he's with Mimi?


Because evil that once ruled the world for over a thousand years does not simply go into retirement without going through some heavy psychological experiences?

Experiences which could have very reasonably caused him to undergo a very drastic personality change. And there's no reason that split/multiple-personalities would be excluded from the potential end results.
And Aku is capable of multi-tasking; he can split himself and have one half be retired-Aku-daddy and another be the needy-Aku/Chi-daughter.

Or in other words:
Aku went super mega cra-cra~



It's not that unreasonable. I'm sure most of us have seen/read weirder things.


I like this idea a LOT.

Like, really. I would love a story like this. And it would take something tremendously horrible to do that to Aku--he goes through a ton of shit in Samurai Jack, almost dies several times, is cut off from everything for millions of years, and he's already completely insane to begin with. I can see it. I'm tempted to write it.

But...considering the entire premise of Grim Tales is "look at the offspring of powerful underworld monsters"...she's going to be an actual descendant, not Aku himself in another form. ^^;

I'm also convinced Aku has been forced or manipulated (whether by another person or by his own emotions) into retirement because that's about the only way you could ever get him to stop what he does. And anything that could cause him to step back can't be anything good. I think he WILL be a little less stable as a repercussion of whatever that "anything" was, though.
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby Sigment » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:01 am

JunSama wrote:
askura wrote:Because Minnie officially died, was reaped, and then brought back to life, her injuries didn't heal and she became a ragdoll. Skarr on the other hand apparently never lost the gaping hole in his stomach from BBA because he was never reaped, and therefore didn't "die" even though his time had come.


What the hell are you talking about here?

Her injuries aren't even worth mentioning because they never tried to bring her back in her original body.
She became a ghost and then took possession of a rag-doll corpse. And that may not even necessarily mean she's back to life. She could just be overshadowing it, danny-phantom style.

You are actually incorrect. After the Pumpkinator Incident, Halloween Town's scientist took what remained of Minnie's body and pieced it back together. Minnie then returned herself to it. That empty right eye socket isn't just for kicks, you know...
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And as far as Mandy goes... (panels two through four)
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby askura » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:41 am

JunSama wrote:
What the hell are you talking about here?

Her injuries aren't even worth mentioning because they never tried to bring her back in her original body.
She became a ghost and then took possession of a rag-doll corpse. And that may not even necessarily mean she's back to life. She could just be overshadowing it, danny-phantom style.


Sigment Kurosai wrote:You are actually incorrect. After the Pumpkinator Incident, Halloween Town's scientist took what remained of Minnie's body and pieced it back together. Minnie then returned herself to it. That empty right eye socket isn't just for kicks, you know...


http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=135

Not to mention she was sewn together at places she was dismembered.

Sounds like someone needs to reread the comic... ;)
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby silvercover » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:15 am

on the other hand, grim including several other characters have commented quite a bit of mandy's "darkness", so I think her actually dying wouldnt put her down and actually would make her a lot more fearsome.
kinda like how billy himself is still "alive", except mandy would be the opposite of nice and fun...
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby Sigment » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:31 am

Okay, so... I was browsing through GT for old times sake, when I saw something interesting that I had completely forgotten about...
http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=27
Panel 3, tell me which two characters stick out the most...
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby Tuor » Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:20 am

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