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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby AkuTenshiiZero » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:33 pm

Blood Lord wrote:You were addressing the person who made it.

As for here, its going off the concept pieces that were on Bleedman's DA. Strangely enough, I'm not finding a problem with the idea. I would prefer it over the idea that she got forcibly rapped by two demons for no apparent reason. Having a relationship with Aku would explain a few things in the comic.


I'm also find it tiring that Blossom is being referred to as a whore, when she isn't. Personally, I would like to abuse power towards those who state such beliefs, but alas, I cannot.


Well, no offense, but I certainly hope there's a plausible story in said fanfiction to explain how the bleeding hell a creature born out of literally a pool of liquid evil older than humanity could possibly settle down with a heroic paragon of justice. I know these fanfics tend to take the ball and run with it in all sorts of crazy directions, but we're not even taking the ball here. We're leaving the ball behind and running god knows where.

Look, I'm really trying not to be an a-hole here. Really. But when characters do things that their original incarnations would never, ever do, and then people defend those actions like it's no big deal, I just don't get it. This is the kind of thing that's played for laughs, an illogical pairing like this, and if it was being played for laughs I wouldn't object. But GT is a pretty damn dark and serious story so things need to make sense. And I don't understand how I'm the only person here that thinks Aku/Blossom simply could not happen.

askura wrote:And you have an Aku/Blossom avatar there LOL (sorry buuuut you do )


Well, it's Aku and Chi, not Aku and Blossom (I thought YOU were the one that drew this..?). And like I said, when someone does something out of character for the sake of humor, that's not a problem. I just find the image of Aku the Dad to be funny as hell.

I dunno. If the story behind these two can somehow make sense, I'll be happy to change my stance. It just seems too far-fetched to me. Then again, I've been surprised before. I just know that I'm going to need a backstory to explain this insanity.
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby askura » Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:44 pm

AkuTenshiiZero wrote:Well, no offense, but I certainly hope there's a plausible story in said fanfiction to explain how the bleeding hell a creature born out of literally a pool of liquid evil older than humanity could possibly settle down with a heroic paragon of justice. I know these fanfics tend to take the ball and run with it in all sorts of crazy directions, but we're not even taking the ball here. We're leaving the ball behind and running god knows where.

Look, I'm really trying not to be an a-hole here. Really. But when characters do things that their original incarnations would never, ever do, and then people defend those actions like it's no big deal, I just don't get it. This is the kind of thing that's played for laughs, an illogical pairing like this, and if it was being played for laughs I wouldn't object. But GT is a pretty damn dark and serious story so things need to make sense. And I don't understand how I'm the only person here that thinks Aku/Blossom simply could not happen.


Well, I did just explain it. It's alright if you don't like it, but the evidence is there. I'll be honest, when I made it, I did make it as kind of a joke. Then people came along and made them work and sort of influenced me to believe that they worked...and surprise, they kinda do. They're not everyone's cup of tea, but I think they're adorable. :3

EDIT aahhhh sorry I didn't see where you edited your post after I made mine! ^^; Don't think I'm upset or anything. I'm personally really excited to see what bleedman will do with them! If he does anything at all...

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askura wrote:And you have an Aku/Blossom avatar there LOL (sorry buuuut you do )


Well, it's Aku and Chi, not Aku and Blossom (I thought YOU were the one that drew this..?). And like I said, when someone does something out of character for the sake of humor, that's not a problem. I just find the image of Aku the Dad to be funny as hell.



Yeah, I drew it...based on the theory I had that Aku is an awesome parent that loves his daughter and wants to be the best dad he can be in the wake of Blossom dying, and if it was inaccurate to the comic later, then it would just be normal Aku-with-his-daughter-from-Blossom fanart. :P It's rather indirect, but I did it with the thought of Aku being determined to make Blossom proud...
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby AkuTenshiiZero » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:10 pm

So basically you're telling me that this whole thing came out of some sort of communal pot of ideas, and nobody really has a solid clue what the hell is going on? And even you, as the one who first sparked this idea, don't have a concrete story as to how these two managed to get over their differences and find romance?

Uh-huh...Well at least now I know why this makes no sense to me, without solid context I'm sort of left scratching my head. And until that pot of ideas boils down into a sensible story, I'm still going to be pretty lost. I'll be frank, I sort of misspoke earlier, I don't think Aku/Blossom is impossible. I just think the odds of them having a successful relationship is astronomically unlikely. If a backstory can successfully show the progression of their relationship, show the changes in the characters that took place and why those changes occurred, then fine. But I'm not gonna just buy Aku/Blossom at face value. What did Blossom first see in Aku that made her think he could be changed? Why didn't Aku try to kill her, and if he did why did he stop trying to kill her? If they were enemies at first, what happened to spark the romance? If it's just common interest that brought them together, in what scenario would these two meet where those interests would be made clear to each other? There's just too many things that need answering. In short, we need a "This is how I met your mother" story. Much like the story of Grim and Mandy brought all the pieces together and fit them nice and neatly into a logical picture.
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby askura » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:22 pm

AkuTenshiiZero wrote:So basically you're telling me that this whole thing came out of some sort of communal pot of ideas, and nobody really has a solid clue what the hell is going on? And even you, as the one who first sparked this idea, don't have a concrete story as to how these two managed to get over their differences and find romance?

Uh-huh...Well at least now I know why this makes no sense to me, without solid context I'm sort of left scratching my head. And until that pot of ideas boils down into a sensible story, I'm still going to be pretty lost. I'll be frank, I sort of misspoke earlier, I don't think Aku/Blossom is impossible. I just think the odds of them having a successful relationship is astronomically unlikely. If a backstory can successfully show the progression of their relationship, show the changes in the characters that took place and why those changes occurred, then fine. But I'm not gonna just buy Aku/Blossom at face value. What did Blossom first see in Aku that made her think he could be changed? Why didn't Aku try to kill her, and if he did why did he stop trying to kill her? If they were enemies at first, what happened to spark the romance? If it's just common interest that brought them together, in what scenario would these two meet where those interests would be made clear to each other? There's just too many things that need answering. In short, we need a "This is how I met your mother" story. Much like the story of Grim and Mandy brought all the pieces together and fit them nice and neatly into a logical picture.


Nah, I was just saying that I like pretty much every idea for the pairing and can't decide on which one I like most. I was just laying the basics of why they might work, not the details of any random fanfic or comic or scenario or anything because there are too many to pick from and they're too diverse...

I actually really, really hope we get something for them like we did for Grim and Mandy. That would make my entire life :D Like I said before, if Aku tells Chi bedtime stories about the things that led up to her birth, it wouldn't just fit with referencing canon (having Aku go all Fairy Tales on her), it would be a great way to explain wtf is going on....
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby Guardian » Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:44 pm

I don't find the pairing illogical. Especially when you consider that Blossom was in kindergarten during the show, and people have a tendency to change as they get older. I don't think she went to the darkside, she wouldn't stop being a hero, and I don't think Aku would stop being a source of evil. However, I do believe that people and characters can change even when their roots are still the same. Look at the people who have fallen in love with their opposites. It happens, statistically speaking, its difficult, but it happens.

I can see it being really easy from a PpGD point of view then a PpG view. I mean look who is about to get hurt the most during this arc. It isn't Bell, or even Sam, its Blossom. Not only is she in for a rough fight, but she is going to have to deal with the whole Dexter and Olga thing later. There is an increasing amount of potential for Blossom to enter a rage mode and feel betrayed by everyone. Her sisters aren't going to help since it looks like Buttercup might have to deal with any repercussions caused by defeating Sam (which I seriously am starting to doubt) and probably wouldn't care, and Bubbles would offer your generic heart felt responses that people don't want to hear at that point in time.

Now GT and PpGD are separate universe, but they still mirror each other close enough to have the main cast make a guest appearance in GT.

I sort of misspoke earlier, I don't think Aku/Blossom is impossible. I just think the odds of them having a successful relationship is astronomically unlikely

In this case, you are somewhat right. The odds of two opposite people, no matter how romantic the situation might be, falling in love and having an enduring relationship are very high. Usually because they fight so much. Which is entirely possible in this situation of how the two "fell out" if that happened.

The reality is, it looks like it is going to happen. If that is Aku disguised as a little girl, then Bleedman is more pedo than I ever thought was possible. For now, we can think on how it happened and hope that we will see it happen.
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby Javetts Eall Raksha » Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:51 am

so i had a question, it pertains to the last page not the current one. so Grim and HIM have purposes, HIM's realm even helps in the purpose.

so what is the purpose for each realm and/or Leader? i can see walker's and the jail, but what does aku do? what is his purpose? same with hunson.

(this is assuming there is a purpose to any of it, just thought it'd be a fun topic)
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby adrimiz7 » Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:58 am

Ok, looking threw the past comments, I think mine is the one that got the topic focused on Blossom and making her out into being a 'whore.' When I said that, I was only quoting what Him had said she became at her 'darkest hour.' However, this theory has been cut down due to the factor of time. Unless, shape shifting powers allow Aku and his off springs to develop into more mature bodies how ever they see fit. They do have shapeshifting abilities.

However, I would like to figure out how old Chi really is.
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby silvercover » Sat Apr 13, 2013 3:44 am

Javetts Eall Raksha wrote:so i had a question, it pertains to the last page not the current one. so Grim and HIM have purposes, HIM's realm even helps in the purpose.

so what is the purpose for each realm and/or Leader? i can see walker's and the jail, but what does aku do? what is his purpose? same with hunson.

(this is assuming there is a purpose to any of it, just thought it'd be a fun topic)


if there requires a purpose, id say aku's role/realm is like what you'd consider the city, something like las vegas perhaps. where people go to have "fun" and "freedom". it is compared to a human civilization, could also just be the hell's version of it.
or maybe something like the most advanced and leading country/city/realm/whatever, whereas every other realm are more or less stale/traditional aku's making his realm develop and improve. sort of like research centers of hell. they develop things which may get extended to the other realms if they so want/pay aku.
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby Darkingdomhearts » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:07 am

I do consider the possibility of Aku and Blossom being a pair, but I have some other theories too. It seems to me that Chi is a bit older than Mimi, so therefore she would have made Chi before she got raped by HIM. But for me the most logical thing would be that Chi is created with the essence of Blossom. We know that Demongo was able to do that, and maybe he could have just taken the essence without imprisoning her inside of him. And giving the essence to Aku made it possible for him to create a daughter. However I don't exclude the theory that Blossom and Aku would have a child.

Just like Blood Lord said, GT and the PPGD universes are separate universes. But I rather think that GT is an alternate timeline of PPGD, some events taking place in PPGD also happened with GT in the past only something happened that created the alternate timeline. In PPGD the time bomb went off but maybe in GT the bomb didn't went off and they were all safe. But that eventually led to the villains destroying Earth (or if according to an Adventure Time theory it was a nuclear bomb and the Lich). So maybe Dexter and Olga also had something in GT and Blossom was mad about that and eventually led her to Aku. Griddles did say to me that Olga might make another minor appearance in GT, but since he's not working on it anymore I doubt it will happen.
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby Dr. Mandalor » Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:27 am

Does anyone know what the bomb is supposed to do? Because bell set one off on the moon, and quoted MIB, and i still don't know what it does
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby MERASMUS! » Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:36 am

Dr. Mandalor wrote:Does anyone know what the bomb is supposed to do? Because bell set one off on the moon, and quoted MIB, and i still don't know what it does

This is a Grim Tales thread, not a PPG thread.
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby Dr. Mandalor » Sat Apr 13, 2013 4:41 pm

Went to the wrong page sorry. Just read the other one on PPG :redface: :redface: :redface:
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby askura » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:21 pm

Darkingdomhearts wrote:I do consider the possibility of Aku and Blossom being a pair, but I have some other theories too. It seems to me that Chi is a bit older than Mimi, so therefore she would have made Chi before she got raped by HIM. But for me the most logical thing would be that Chi is created with the essence of Blossom. We know that Demongo was able to do that, and maybe he could have just taken the essence without imprisoning her inside of him. And giving the essence to Aku made it possible for him to create a daughter. However I don't exclude the theory that Blossom and Aku would have a child.

Just like Blood Lord said, GT and the PPGD universes are separate universes. But I rather think that GT is an alternate timeline of PPGD, some events taking place in PPGD also happened with GT in the past only something happened that created the alternate timeline. In PPGD the time bomb went off but maybe in GT the bomb didn't went off and they were all safe. But that eventually led to the villains destroying Earth (or if according to an Adventure Time theory it was a nuclear bomb and the Lich). So maybe Dexter and Olga also had something in GT and Blossom was mad about that and eventually led her to Aku. Griddles did say to me that Olga might make another minor appearance in GT, but since he's not working on it anymore I doubt it will happen.


I'm actually not sure how Demongo's essences work, or if they would even be able to create Chi from Blossom's essence. Essentially, Demongo's essences are gasses, capable of holding enough of a form to fight and cause pain but extinguishing at the lightest cut. They are literally the "essence" of the captive, and not much more.

Furthermore, Demongo is powerless without his skulls, and he seems to be in a "soul" form himself...there's no telling how exactly he could have made this happen. Aku is a powerful wizard, sure, but the only thing he ever canonically "brought to life" was Mad Jack, and that was an illusion drawn from Jack's emotion...Chi is clearly visible to everyone, not a personal vision or illusion, she has thoughts and feelings...

The alternate timeline thing with PPGD/GT though...hummm. Blossom being driven to Aku early on would explain a lot, and give them both a lot of time to develop something...Aku would probably appeal to Blossom's weaknesses ala http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/025/9/5/hahahaha_by_askura-d381vmz.jpg and earn her trust that way, eventually leading to them starting a friendship/alliance/etc in secret. (That's actually the idea I had in mind when I commissioned that comic LMAO oh no everything is coming full circle!)
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby Guardian » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:30 pm

PpGD and GT are alternate universes and from what we see, alternate timelines, but still alternate universes no matter how many times you shake a stick at it. We know that some events are true in both, but we do not know the extent of the differences and the similarities. From what we have heard from BR the "division point" of the two has to deal with Jack's side story, presumably about when he comes out of the future and deals with Aku and somehow ends up in Megaville and decides to stay. The diversionary point isn't the bomb, and we have no way of knowing if it existed in GT or not.
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby Darkingdomhearts » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:46 pm

Blood Lord wrote:PpGD and GT are alternate universes and from what we see, alternate timelines, but still alternate universes no matter how many times you shake a stick at it. We know that some events are true in both, but we do not know the extent of the differences and the similarities. From what we have heard from BR the "division point" of the two has to deal with Jack's side story, presumably about when he comes out of the future and deals with Aku and somehow ends up in Megaville and decides to stay. The diversionary point isn't the bomb, and we have no way of knowing if it existed in GT or not.

Not conforming that it is the bomb that causes the alternate timeline, but I was just throwing it out as an option. I would love to see Jack's side-story in this chapter too, although I also kinda hoped to see a team up between elder Jack and adult Buttercup, they just need to appear >,< Would like to see what you say too though, would explain why Jack possibly could be in our time.

And Askura, I loved that commission it would really make sense that after the whole problem with the bomb and such was done, or that it before they went to the science fair that Blossom would be devastated about the relationship between Dexter and Olga. And maybe the visit of Aku changes the timeline. But there could be so many things that can change the timeline.

And maybe Demongo has more powers, but its very difficult to say since Demongo only has appeared as a spirit after Aku crushed him. So he probably won't be able to use his powers. Just gonna wait what Bleed's going to do.
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby askura » Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:59 pm

Darkingdomhearts wrote:
Blood Lord wrote:PpGD and GT are alternate universes and from what we see, alternate timelines, but still alternate universes no matter how many times you shake a stick at it. We know that some events are true in both, but we do not know the extent of the differences and the similarities. From what we have heard from BR the "division point" of the two has to deal with Jack's side story, presumably about when he comes out of the future and deals with Aku and somehow ends up in Megaville and decides to stay. The diversionary point isn't the bomb, and we have no way of knowing if it existed in GT or not.

Not conforming that it is the bomb that causes the alternate timeline, but I was just throwing it out as an option. I would love to see Jack's side-story in this chapter too, although I also kinda hoped to see a team up between elder Jack and adult Buttercup, they just need to appear >,< Would like to see what you say too though, would explain why Jack possibly could be in our time.

And Askura, I loved that commission it would really make sense that after the whole problem with the bomb and such was done, or that it before they went to the science fair that Blossom would be devastated about the relationship between Dexter and Olga. And maybe the visit of Aku changes the timeline. But there could be so many things that can change the timeline.

And maybe Demongo has more powers, but its very difficult to say since Demongo only has appeared as a spirit after Aku crushed him. So he probably won't be able to use his powers. Just gonna wait what Bleed's going to do.


Nah man, Blood Lord just said BR mentioned it having to do with Jack's story....I'd say they both began as one universe (both as a comic and in the story itself) then split when Jack starts his time-fuckery.

PPGD's universe is probably the one where Jack is successful...Grim Tales is the universe in which he fails, and eventually perishes. And they fork into two seperate universes where Jack does...whatever he does.

I know absolutely nothing about Jack in either story so I can't really relate it to canon or determine the significance of whatever he did/does/will do, but it was obviously ridiculously important.
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby Javetts Eall Raksha » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:54 pm

askura wrote:
Nah man, Blood Lord just said BR mentioned it having to do with Jack's story....I'd say they both began as one universe (both as a comic and in the story itself) then split when Jack starts his time-fuckery.

PPGD's universe is probably the one where Jack is successful...Grim Tales is the universe in which he fails, and eventually perishes. And they fork into two seperate universes where Jack does...whatever he does.

I know absolutely nothing about Jack in either story so I can't really relate it to canon or determine the significance of whatever he did/does/will do, but it was obviously ridiculously important.

actually... yeah that makes a lot of sense. if instead of looking at what jack will do, we presume that the thing involving jack is what has already been, then yeah. i actually really like that idea. i support it.
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby Guardian » Sat Apr 13, 2013 10:35 pm

When Jack's side story appears, its going to be a PpGD insert and not a GT. BR is over that one, and Grids was over GT.
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby theultimatesnafufan » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:06 pm

This is probably a stupid question but when the heck did aku have a daughter o.O
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby MERASMUS! » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:39 pm

theultimatesnafufan wrote:This is probably a stupid question but when the heck did aku have a daughter o.O

We actually don't know for sure. Presumably before Mimi was born. Welcome to city 17 XD. whoops, welcome to the forums.
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby Guardian » Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:38 pm

I feel like we're going in circles here.
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby JunSama » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:01 am

I really hope that's Aku's daughter, and not just some time-skipped personality-changed Aku

Cause that's the vibe I'm getting. o_e



You all do remember that one episode where Aku pretended to be a lady right...?
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby askura » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:13 pm

JunSama wrote:I really hope that's Aku's daughter, and not just some time-skipped personality-changed Aku

Cause that's the vibe I'm getting. o_e



You all do remember that one episode where Aku pretended to be a lady right...?


Yes, but Ikra was Aku pretending to be a completely different person to trick Jack. She was a temporary persona, an alias.

If she was simply Aku pretending to be a Blossom-looking loli, why would he change all his visiboards to show advertisements of Chi, while leaving the statue of himself in the center of the city intact? Aku loves himself too much to change his default form, which he's had for hundreds, if not thousands of years.

Furthermore, if Aku was using Chi's form to interact with Mimi for some reason, why would he maintain that form in the privacy of his home, rather than just using it when he's with Mimi?

Chi's not Aku. She's likely just picked up a fuckload of Aku's mannerisms/habits, presumably because she's always lived with him.

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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby Kalegion » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:37 pm

askura wrote:
Blood Lord wrote:I hope this comic doesn't take the turn for every girl gawking after Jr's boner.


I have a feeling there's going to be a lot of Chi/Mimi. I already ship it. No fucks given.

And I've said this before, I'll say it again: Chi is the daughter of Aku. There is 100% nothing Aku hates more than humans. I'm pretty sure Chi will have picked this up if nothing else, and Junior is half-human. This does not bode well for Junior possibly adding Chi to his potential love interests.

Mimi doesn't even seem to like Junior all that much, to be honest. The last time we saw them together she was attacking him...lol

stratus wrote:considering they potentially have the same mom or at least have 1/2 of blossoms DNA by whatever unnatural methods, they are basically siblings. Mimi is the closet thing Chi may have to a sister . it dont know if their aware of the fact that they may be blood relatives but maybe chi's love of Mimi could be just a strong sisterly love. Chi may have developed strong emotions for Mimi but may not know the reason. their ties/heritage with blossom could explain why thiers such a strong connection between them and why it was natural for them to become best friends. but knowing Grim Tales romance, a little Incest is not off the table neither is Yuri love.


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Does it count as half-human if it's dead?
Also, do we even know for sure that his genetic father is human?
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Re: New Grim Tales Comic:

Postby askura » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:43 pm

Kalegion wrote:\
Does it count as half-human if it's dead?
Also, do we even know for sure that his genetic father is human?


Mandy is the human half...

Of course, she's an immortal human, but a human nonetheless.
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