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Re: Snafu Therapy Thread.

Postby Yog » Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:25 am

Actually, if it seems they're being lazy, then I'd do the same. Tell them no.

There WAS one thing that happened.

It was... interesting.

Someone close to me told me that I acted like a tool for other people to use. That person told me to "live for myself."

I still don't really get what she meant.
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Re: Snafu Therapy Thread.

Postby EagleMan » Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:30 am

Usually when people give out pithy statements like that they have no idea what they mean either.

What they are saying however, is that they think poorly of you for doing things for others. I guess that goes with them calling you a tool.

A person should, if possible, live for something greater than themselves.
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Re: Snafu Therapy Thread.

Postby Yog » Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:37 am

I was told when I was younger that there really is no reason for me to exist. The person who said that was right in a variety of aspects.

That's why I try and help others. In truth, I want to feel useful. I want to know that I'm doing some right, however small and insignificant.

I guess I'm looking for a way to validate my existence. And I guess it's why I feel guilty about things completely unrelated to me, all the time.

Is that in some way selfish? I always wondered if it was. I don't really know of any other way to go about it.
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Re: Snafu Therapy Thread.

Postby EagleMan » Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:46 am

It's funny. I've read a lot on ethics, on how to live your life properly. But we can't all be leaders deciding the fates of millions. Despite all the reading and thought I've put into it, I'm still just a guy on a computer on some forum. The chance to do something right, to face a real ethical situation, rarely happens, and even then you usually have no idea if what you're doing is right or wrong because you have so little information to work with, and you have no idea how the effects of your actions will spiral out per the butterfly effect.

That person may be right in some respects, but only in the way that there is no why for any of us to exist, given that that person probably said it in a quite negative way. There is no ultimate, objective reason for any of us to exist. There is only what we give ourselves.

I wouldn't say that's selfish. I'd wager that your guilt probably stems from a sense of unfulfilled potential. You hear these bad things, and you're sad that you aren't out there making some difference (of course, that feeling doesn't tend to relate to reality - just like how people with tons of friends can feel lonely). So you know it has nothing to do with you, but you feel like you could've done something in the abstract, and that guilt may come from knowing you aren't living to your fullest self. But most everyone feels that. And anyone who has the audacity to declare themselves as living up to their fullest potential clearly aren't. So it's not selfish. You're thinking about yourself, sure, but you're thinking about it in relation to the fact that maybe you could've done something about some similar situation somewhere. That's not making it about you. Of course maybe you feel what I said doesn't reflect you and I was off the mark and that's fine too.
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Re: Snafu Therapy Thread.

Postby Tuor » Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:48 am

Wow
"Suddenly Frodo noticed that a strange-looking weather-beaten man, sitting in the shadows near the wall, was also listening intently to the hobbit-talk. He had a tall tankard in front of him, and was smoking a long-stemmed pipe curiously carved. His legs were stretched out before him, showing high boots of supple leather that fitted him well, but had seen much wear and were now caked with mud. A travel-stained cloak of heavy dark-green cloth was drawn close about him, and in spite of the heat of the room he wore a hood that overshadowed his face; but the gleam of his eyes could be seen as he watched the hobbits."
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Re: Snafu Therapy Thread.

Postby Yog » Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:51 am

God you hit the bullseye. All of that makes so much sense.

EM, how do you do that?
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Re: Snafu Therapy Thread.

Postby Yog » Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:52 am

WHY THE FUCK AREN'T YOU A PSYCHOLOGIST?!

Good god, you're brilliant.
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Re: Snafu Therapy Thread.

Postby Yog » Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:56 am

The psychologist thing was a joke, but EM, really, how DO you do that?

I mean, that's something I've always struggled with. And you just answered it in one post.

It's amazing, really.
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Re: Snafu Therapy Thread.

Postby EagleMan » Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:07 am

Can't really say. A lot of my thoughts go to understanding myself, but I've never come any closer to that, and it just sort of spills over into understanding people in general as far as I've seen, despite my basically nonexistent social interaction.
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Postby Yog » Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:08 am

Maybe you're some kind of genius?

It's quite fascinating.
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Re: Snafu Therapy Thread.

Postby EagleMan » Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:25 am

When I took an IQ test while getting myself evaluated (a luxury of parental insurance) to check if I have high-functioning autism (I don't), I scored as a genius in verbal skills (i.e. a portion of the IQ test not the whole thing). Though I did score completely average on spatial skills, but I think I messed up on the instructions and oh well it doesn't matter, a lot of things I did confused and befuddled her. Either way it was only a score for >2.15% of people, so 1 in 50 people isn't exactly rare.
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Re: Snafu Therapy Thread.

Postby Wulfespinndel » Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:27 am

EagleMan wrote:It's funny. I've read a lot on ethics, on how to live your life properly. But we can't all be leaders deciding the fates of millions. Despite all the reading and thought I've put into it, I'm still just a guy on a computer on some forum. The chance to do something right, to face a real ethical situation, rarely happens, and even then you usually have no idea if what you're doing is right or wrong because you have so little information to work with, and you have no idea how the effects of your actions will spiral out per the butterfly effect.

That person may be right in some respects, but only in the way that there is no why for any of us to exist, given that that person probably said it in a quite negative way. There is no ultimate, objective reason for any of us to exist. There is only what we give ourselves.

I wouldn't say that's selfish. I'd wager that your guilt probably stems from a sense of unfulfilled potential. You hear these bad things, and you're sad that you aren't out there making some difference (of course, that feeling doesn't tend to relate to reality - just like how people with tons of friends can feel lonely). So you know it has nothing to do with you, but you feel like you could've done something in the abstract, and that guilt may come from knowing you aren't living to your fullest self. But most everyone feels that. And anyone who has the audacity to declare themselves as living up to their fullest potential clearly aren't. So it's not selfish. You're thinking about yourself, sure, but you're thinking about it in relation to the fact that maybe you could've done something about some similar situation somewhere. That's not making it about you. Of course maybe you feel what I said doesn't reflect you and I was off the mark and that's fine too.


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Re: Snafu Therapy Thread.

Postby Tuor » Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:43 am

I was more wowing at the long windedness of the post.
"Suddenly Frodo noticed that a strange-looking weather-beaten man, sitting in the shadows near the wall, was also listening intently to the hobbit-talk. He had a tall tankard in front of him, and was smoking a long-stemmed pipe curiously carved. His legs were stretched out before him, showing high boots of supple leather that fitted him well, but had seen much wear and were now caked with mud. A travel-stained cloak of heavy dark-green cloth was drawn close about him, and in spite of the heat of the room he wore a hood that overshadowed his face; but the gleam of his eyes could be seen as he watched the hobbits."
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Re: Snafu Therapy Thread.

Postby Princess » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:30 pm

Kinda just need to vent.


I have this old friend who keeps portraying me as a bad guy to all of our mutual friends. I heard about it a little while ago, but I've let it sit so long that now I am really angry. I'm assuming the friends know its bullshit, because they've been around for most of the crap that went on between me and the old friend, but maybe some don't. I dunno. I'm just annoyed that they keep making me the villain and making themselves seem like a damsel in distress. I know the kid has problems, but I'm still quite pissed off. Especially when what they're saying about me to other people is not true.
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Re: Snafu Therapy Thread.

Postby Brax4 » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:55 pm

I dunno' the best way about fixing a situation like that, besides trying to ignore the old friend, or confront them. You just gotta' believe that your mutual friends know the kind of person you are and not listen to your old friend.

My friends and I try to avoid drama as much as possible, so when one friend and another friend are pitted against each other, and one of them is trying to portray the other in a dark light, we just kinda' avoid the one that's making rumors and remarks and starting drama.
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Re: Snafu Therapy Thread.

Postby Tuor » Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:28 pm

If she just needs to vent she's not looking for advice, probably.
"Suddenly Frodo noticed that a strange-looking weather-beaten man, sitting in the shadows near the wall, was also listening intently to the hobbit-talk. He had a tall tankard in front of him, and was smoking a long-stemmed pipe curiously carved. His legs were stretched out before him, showing high boots of supple leather that fitted him well, but had seen much wear and were now caked with mud. A travel-stained cloak of heavy dark-green cloth was drawn close about him, and in spite of the heat of the room he wore a hood that overshadowed his face; but the gleam of his eyes could be seen as he watched the hobbits."
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Re: Snafu Therapy Thread.

Postby Grey » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:51 pm

i know bitches that do that shit


not to me because they know if they do i'll slap em silly, but they do that to other chicks i know and it's bullshit
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Postby Grey » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:51 pm

but if you ain't gonna take it up with the person, you just gotta trust that your friends know who's bullshittin
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Re: Snafu Therapy Thread.

Postby Princess » Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:42 pm

Can't really confront the person, because as I said the person has some deep seeded issues. They're getting help and all, but I really just do not feel like dealing with the after effects if I confronted them.
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Re: Snafu Therapy Thread.

Postby Hana » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:47 pm

*hugs Stuff*
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Re: Snafu Therapy Thread.

Postby Hana » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:10 am

I was not sent to do Riz's bidding. Stuff, I contacted you concerning Riz of my own volition.

Personally, I think you're both being thick-headed about this whole thing, but I can see that I'm not being of any help here, so I'm stepping out of it. I will not try and force you two to talk to each other again.
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Re: Snafu Therapy Thread.

Postby Princess » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:17 am

Sorry, I don't feel like walking on egg shells all the time. I'm not going to try to censor myself just so I can keep someone else happy. Like I said, I'm fine being civil.
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Re: Snafu Therapy Thread.

Postby Lord Frieza » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:49 pm

If you don't mind me asking, how close are you to this old friend?
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Re: Snafu Therapy Thread.

Postby Princess » Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:52 pm

Not close anymore, obviously. Barely friends at all, really.
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