I think the true failure in Adolf Hitler's leadership

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I think the true failure in Adolf Hitler's leadership

Postby DaCrum » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:10 pm

Was a refusal to surround himself with people that would question him.
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Re: I think the true failure in Adolf Hitler's leadership

Postby Tuor » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:12 pm

Pretty much, fucked his plans up so bad. Subordinates were too scared of him. Didn't wake him up until the morning after first actions of Normandy
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Re: I think the true failure in Adolf Hitler's leadership

Postby DaCrum » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:15 pm

He was probably the best leader in modern times, and was squandered as a dictator and mass murderer. Imagine what he could've done for Germany if his subordinates provided an environment that would encourage his mental growth.
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Re: I think the true failure in Adolf Hitler's leadership

Postby Riz » Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:17 pm

I've never thought about it that way before
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Re: I think the true failure in Adolf Hitler's leadership

Postby NeoWarrior7 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:07 am

OK? Thought this was common knowledge.
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Re: I think the true failure in Adolf Hitler's leadership

Postby Mir@k » Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:41 am

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Re: I think the true failure in Adolf Hitler's leadership

Postby Valhallen » Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:01 am

DaCrum wrote:He was probably the best leader in modern times, and was squandered as a dictator and mass murderer. Imagine what he could've done for Germany if his subordinates provided an environment that would encourage his mental growth.
He probably would have run things more competently. But if he had still attacked the Soviet Union, they would still have stomped him, and if he hadn't, the Western front might have held out long enough for the US to use nukes in Europe. And if he'd been really good, he might have tried to revitalize Germany in ways that didn't require militaristic expansion.
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Re: I think the true failure in Adolf Hitler's leadership

Postby DaCrum » Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:26 am

I think if he utilized the Jewish population in the military as suicide brigades(like what the Soviets did with retreaters, deserters and POWs), then he would have had a better chance. Imagine some 6 million(accounting for Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, Communists, Socialists, and other undesirables he killed, then approximately halving for possible non-combatants) fighting for their and their families' freedom. Passionate fighters. Also saves the manpower that would otherwise equip camps and ghettos.
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Re: I think the true failure in Adolf Hitler's leadership

Postby EagleMan » Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:52 pm

You're basically saying he should have been a different person though and that person could've done a lot.
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Re: I think the true failure in Adolf Hitler's leadership

Postby DaCrum » Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:12 am

I think it was a waste of a fine good leader.
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Re: I think the true failure in Adolf Hitler's leadership

Postby Valhallen » Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:56 am

How do you consider him to have been a "fine good" leader? I'd consider that to be something different from charismatic and initially successful.
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Re: I think the true failure in Adolf Hitler's leadership

Postby nobody » Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:59 am

The true failure of Hitler was that awful mustache
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Re: I think the true failure in Adolf Hitler's leadership

Postby Valhallen » Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:12 am

Would you have preferred some other style of facial hair be associated with Hitler?
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Re: I think the true failure in Adolf Hitler's leadership

Postby Panty Anarchy » Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:32 am

I wish Hitler had a faux-hawk so people wouldn't be so gungho about them.
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Re: I think the true failure in Adolf Hitler's leadership

Postby EagleMan » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:25 am

nobody wrote:The true failure of Hitler was that awful mustache

It is hard to say now. Both you and I have associated that style with Hitler all our lives so we have clouded judgment.
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Re: I think the true failure in Adolf Hitler's leadership

Postby Q.U. » Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:51 am

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Re: I think the true failure in Adolf Hitler's leadership

Postby EagleMan » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:42 pm

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Re: I think the true failure in Adolf Hitler's leadership

Postby Princess » Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:13 pm

there's been a lot of Jew and Hitler talk recently...
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Re: I think the true failure in Adolf Hitler's leadership

Postby Grey » Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:41 pm

2nd holocaust imminent
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Re: I think the true failure in Adolf Hitler's leadership

Postby EagleMan » Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:09 am

The Mayans knew.
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Re: I think the true failure in Adolf Hitler's leadership

Postby Princess » Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:47 am

Funny enough, this happened:

My Mother: Aren't we supposed to be dead? We survived the Holocaust.

(She obviously meant the apocalypse.)
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