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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:10 pm 
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Was a refusal to surround himself with people that would question him.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:12 pm 
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Pretty much, fucked his plans up so bad. Subordinates were too scared of him. Didn't wake him up until the morning after first actions of Normandy

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He was probably the best leader in modern times, and was squandered as a dictator and mass murderer. Imagine what he could've done for Germany if his subordinates provided an environment that would encourage his mental growth.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:07 am 
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OK? Thought this was common knowledge.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:41 am 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:01 am 
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DaCrum wrote:
He was probably the best leader in modern times, and was squandered as a dictator and mass murderer. Imagine what he could've done for Germany if his subordinates provided an environment that would encourage his mental growth.
He probably would have run things more competently. But if he had still attacked the Soviet Union, they would still have stomped him, and if he hadn't, the Western front might have held out long enough for the US to use nukes in Europe. And if he'd been really good, he might have tried to revitalize Germany in ways that didn't require militaristic expansion.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:26 am 
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I think if he utilized the Jewish population in the military as suicide brigades(like what the Soviets did with retreaters, deserters and POWs), then he would have had a better chance. Imagine some 6 million(accounting for Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, Communists, Socialists, and other undesirables he killed, then approximately halving for possible non-combatants) fighting for their and their families' freedom. Passionate fighters. Also saves the manpower that would otherwise equip camps and ghettos.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:52 pm 
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You're basically saying he should have been a different person though and that person could've done a lot.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:12 am 
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I think it was a waste of a fine good leader.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:56 am 
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How do you consider him to have been a "fine good" leader? I'd consider that to be something different from charismatic and initially successful.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:59 am 
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The true failure of Hitler was that awful mustache

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Would you have preferred some other style of facial hair be associated with Hitler?


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I wish Hitler had a faux-hawk so people wouldn't be so gungho about them.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:25 am 
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nobody wrote:
The true failure of Hitler was that awful mustache

It is hard to say now. Both you and I have associated that style with Hitler all our lives so we have clouded judgment.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:13 pm 
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there's been a lot of Jew and Hitler talk recently...

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:47 am 
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Funny enough, this happened:

My Mother: Aren't we supposed to be dead? We survived the Holocaust.

(She obviously meant the apocalypse.)

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