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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:03 am 
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He is one to justify it or avoid giving an answer that makes him out to look bad. Last week he just went on a shoplifting spree and stole just a bunch of junk. Heard that's what some people would do, steal a list of things a dealer wants, then give them drugs in exchange.

And I wish I could do something for him. But I don't really know what. I don't know where he lives, how to contact him, everyone but grandma has downright given up on him and doesn't want to deal with him, and he's hurt me just recently as well selling the bike I sold him for drug money. He's been at this for more than 30 years... It just hurts seeing him how everyone else does after knowing him so long. I would like to have an intervention with him, but most likely he's already been to a few already in the span of those years. what hope do I have to help him?

Well, at one point, Pabst, you gotta look at what this is doing to you. It's not fair that he causes pain to you like this.

I know this sounds cruel, but... you might have to just let him go.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:04 pm 
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Jesus, I've never heard of someone living his entire adult life doing nothing but this and not stopping.

I would say count your blessings you are not him, but that isn't very nice at all. I've never had an addiction before; I've lived my entire life trying to avoid things that cause me to lose control of myself, so if there's anything I can relate to it would be the fear of loss.

My grandparents on both hereditary sides have all died from heart failure, and they all had one thing in common. They were all alone.

I would say just keep trying to convince her that he's no good, as if that would work anyway, but at the same time if they do end up separated or anything like that she would be left all alone.

All of my senior relatives died of heart attacks when they were alone, probably due to the stress of being alone. If nothing else, he would keep her company in better or worse.

If this comes off as a mite controversial or something, I apologize in advance, but I know I don't want to be alone in the end, knowing all that awaits me tomorrow is the potential for death.

They have lived their entire adult lives this way, maybe it's not as bad as we make it out to be because we haven't been in their shoes, but nothing could be worse than the alternative in my opinion... There is no single easy answer to any of these major questions, there never is...

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:16 pm 
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Birdofterror, addictions are very... Rough. Its a bit more complicated than you think.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:19 pm 
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Yog wrote:
Birdofterror, addictions are very... Rough. Its a bit more complicated than you think.
Well what I think and what I have said aren't exactly the same. I've lived around addiction, from minor things to some of the heavier stuff I have resisted the temptation through sheer fear of what addiction is at its core.

I have seen others with it, but it has never gone as far as what you guys have explained. I haven't experienced your guys' life, so I'm only speaking from my limited experience with such things. I'm not trying to be a burden on the conversation, but if I am being so I will leave you guys to it.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:22 pm 
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Hrm.

Well, thanks for respecting the boundaries of others, dude. Very mature of you.


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Hey Yog, I feel like this is something you might know. What's a good way to deal with anxiety?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:55 pm 
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Awesome.

Use music. Get those large headphones and just zone out on the most relaxing music you have.

Smoke weed.

There's this one visualization technique I used. Sit down somewhere comfy and close your eyes. Imagine that in each of your limbs, there is a mental tendril that controls it. Now retract one at a time up to your brain, and just sit there, visualizing the one solid place you are in is your brain.

If you mean in the situation itself, what I do is, mentally distance yourself from the world. Imagine everything is taking place at the end of a long tunnel, and is not even close to you.

Tell me if any of it works.


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I just think of every single outcome to a situation and think it over and over again until I'm emotional prepared to deal with the situation.

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It's just general anxiety, not attributed to any singular event.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:07 pm 
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Then perform the first three.

If you finish it with a happy ending, I guarantee everything will be alllllright.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:27 am 
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I've found that composing music helps you relax and throw your negative feelings away, same as with painting.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:29 am 
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hmm, the only thing i could possibly do that's even related is go back to actually editing videos.

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warbear i don't like using my hands to paint
so i kinda feel the same way you probably do.3
but hear me okay

go to your local grocery store and get basic acrylic paint and any kind of notepad to paint on

and use your fingers or any cheap brush

even if you feel stupid you'll feel great afterwards.

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i've never really been much of an art guy. i mean, i used to do a comic and draw and stuff, but i kinda gave that up for whatever reason.

but, i dunno, i'll give it a try next time i have some spare money.

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it's not about "being an art guy". because the end result is not going to look like anything.
the point here is conveying your feelings to a non violent, colorful medium

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Warbear wrote:
It's just general anxiety, not attributed to any singular event.

So what makes you comfortable in public, if anything?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:23 am 
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I usually unwind by casually thinking of something that makes me laugh. Lately I've forgotten to do this as often as I did about a year ago and I've seen my mood get a little less joyful, so I guess it did help.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:23 am 
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Did you try what I suggested?

Those are my methods, at least. I actually have numerous more, due to living my life like I did, but that would take up the whole page, and I'm lazy.


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EagleMan wrote:
Warbear wrote:
It's just general anxiety, not attributed to any singular event.

So what makes you comfortable in public, if anything?

being around people i like tends to help, but i can't constantly have them around, ya know?

Yog wrote:
Use music. Get those large headphones and just zone out on the most relaxing music you have.

I did this one, kind of. I have this playlist that gets me motivated, so I went on a walk, listened to it, and just logic'd out all of the problems that I had.

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Attaboy.

Glad one of them worked for you.


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Composing music, you say? How exactly would I go about doing that? I play a little piano, so I do know what a key signature is, and what notes are what. How exactly does this process work?

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icha_icha_paradise wrote:
Composing music, you say? How exactly would I go about doing that? I play a little piano, so I do know what a key signature is, and what notes are what. How exactly does this process work?

Start with a small ditty in your head. Any melody will do.

Than, hum the first note of it, while trying to find the closest sounding note on your piano.

Repeat with the rest.

It goes by a lot faster and with better results when high.


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A little bit more complicated than that when you write for larger ensembles. I mean, there's a bunch of technical shit but if you're writing for one instrument it's pretty much what Yog said. Play around with the melodies. Noodle on the piano for a bit.

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There's another way to get rid of anxiety that I do.

From all the times I did it, its always worked.

It involves turning off every single light in your home, and than using candles.

You than put on a set of purely instrumental songs.

I listen to The Mantle by Agalloch.

Anyway, once that's on, you sit on the floor, in a comfortable spot, with your legs crossed.

Taking a deep breath, you slowly inhale with your mouth, and exhale with your nose.

Focus on the breathing, and as the contours of melody lift you from your physical restraints, you remain, tethered to the sound of your breathing.

Than, you slowly analyze each issue, but from a distance. As if you were someone else confronting your problem. Cancel each one out with logical solution, and by the time you finish, you will have left behind your anxiety and reached inner peace.

I usually use that one as a last resort, as it's complicated, but it always works. At least, for me.


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If it's not just purely emotional anxiety, and it's sort of anxiety about what others are thinking, it can help to try to internalize that strangers care a lot less than you think.

Also Yog what would you recommend for a meditation beginner? Obviously you describe it some there but at the hands of a novice like myself meditation was literally just the physical act - sitting there breathing, and nothing more.


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