It is actually mentioned in the OP that you can't come in here and be a dick, so.

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DaCrum: Warbear, why did you suddenly become pretty cool? Stop it.

Exactly

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I believe cutting yourself or attempting suicide has gone past just having "issues". I could even say that calling the authorities to notify them of the doings of some people here would have been the "socially correct" thing to do, rather than watching people saying how they are going to hurt/kill themselves and ignoring it.
And since I don't really know what true depression is like, I don't believe I've been in such a state before, I cannot be accurate or objective. But as I said, my perspective is simply analytical. If in a dire situation one must do what they can to get themselves out of it, and fix it. Some actions, while temporarily giving relief, will ultimately only pull a person further down, making it even more difficult. It's not just that you're not trying for a solution to your problems by self-harming, you're actually compromising your own ability to recover from it all. And as incorrect as it may be, I end up assuming that a person who actively worsens their own state simply does not want to be helped.
And no, "he/she didn't know it at that time" is not an excuse. What kind of an idiot would not realise what self-harm or suicide attempts will result in?
Nor is "it was in a fit of rage/emotions", because I do believe people posting here are mature enough to be able to realise when their mental state is frail and needs containment.

So no, so far I have not recognised a valid excuse for such a behaviour (other than "it's your body and your life, kill yourself if you want"). If anybody is able to explain clearly enough one real excuse for it then I will gladly change my stance. Though as I said, understanding such things is a challenge for a person who had never experienced such a state.

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My stance is similar to qu's in regards to self harm tbh.

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If I'm allowed to post in this thread at all, I actually have some experience with this topic. Not help, just experience.

I'm not going to go Pro or Con on either side, I can see the downs and 'ups' of both, but I tend to lean toward very light self destruction.

It's usually over anger, not depression or sadness or anxiety or anything like that. Long walks and long times spent formulating usually cure those.

I grew up around 'intellectuals' who for some reason, when they got angry took it out on inanimate objects. If these were pillows or punching bags that would be 'fine' I guess, but sometimes holes in walls were made, controllers on gaming systems were broken and windows were completely shattered.

At that point I made a conscious decision over how big the replacement costs and repair bills were getting... so...

Me? I usually... well, embarrassingly enough- bite myself. Usually the fingers, I bite just hard enough to take the focus off the anger and remind me I'm just flesh and blood and life is too short to be mad all the time. Snaps me right out of it. Crazy, I know- but what else is Therapy for?

I never recall an incident of causing permanent or severe harm to myself or others ever, so I think it's successful so far, eh? I'll go now.

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The Chronometal Wars, a fan-fiction taking place in the PPGD Universe. Catastrophe is the only certainty.

Hey folks, let's not forget that this is a mod protected thread. If you see something that you think is out of line, let one of us know instead of giving a kneejerk reaction. We want this to be a relatively safe place and having equivalents of "fuck you"s isn't very conducive for the health of the thread.

Bottom line, just let one of us know let us handle it, even if it's a mod who you are reporting.

What if not everyone thinks someone was doing something the others said the someone was doing?

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In that case let me be more clear. I punched a punching bag until my knuckles bled. Had it not been for the fact that I taped a picture of myself on the punching bag, this would not be considered self harm. I do not consider this self harm. I consider it an exercise in catharsis and sparring.

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When i was 5 years old i used to have this weird fixation with banging my head against the wooden doors of my closet, because it felt rhythmic. Now, if i bang my head against a wall, to me it would be "making sweet rhythms", but it wouldn't mean i am not harming myself by smashing a wall with my head, hurting me, therefore making it still "self harm".

I'm sorry crum, but i don't see how you not seeing self harm as self harm makes it not be self harm when it still is.

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I guess I don't think of it as self harm since the intent is not necessarily to cause pain to myself. I mean, this is not the first time I've done this to my knuckles, nor will it be the last. It is a typical occurrence during sparring training, especially when it had been as long as it has been since I had trained.


Will I tape a picture of myself to my punching bag again? Probably no. Will I punch it again? Well, it's called a punching bag for a reason.

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Escape will make me God.

Your jaw is not a punching bag.

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Oh. Well that, yeah. I'm not doing that again.

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Wow, guys. Just wow.

Birdofterror, you're 100% welcome to post here, as long as you don't have ignorant posts*.




*See certain posts in here.

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Tuor: Stuff is our resident, hot mess, alcoholic.
Senel: Stuff is the patron saint of getting shitfaced. You replaced your organs with an engine that runs solely on alcohol.
RIP Lucky. I love you so much.

Don't punch to the point where you're bleeding, you may not mean to cause harm to yourself, but you are. I saw your knuckles, I think you're an idiot for going that far, but I can't really judge you because I used to self harm. I don't care what other people's views of it are, they can judge or do whatever they want about it, but like I've said to you before "NO ONE knows what you are going through." I can relate on certain things, because I've been in similar situations, and we've talked about this before. But no one can ever know what you're going through, no matter how hard they try to understand. All I can do is try to suggest a better way for you to unleash your stress/anger/etc. Like I said, play games, you can punch your punching bag, but if you are bleeding? Stop. Do something else. Go run on a treadmill instead. Just don't cause harm to yourself.

Hell, even just jump onto Skype and talk to me. Just send me a message on FB, and I'll hop on as long as I'm not busy.

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Tuor: Stuff is our resident, hot mess, alcoholic.
Senel: Stuff is the patron saint of getting shitfaced. You replaced your organs with an engine that runs solely on alcohol.
RIP Lucky. I love you so much.

Or use tape / wrap / gloves.

Or tape small woodland creatures to your hands.

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Well, I'm safe for now from getting kicked out of the house... For maybe a week or two...

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"Cogito, ergo vos es eggo." A.K.A. "I think, therefore you are a waffle."

I have no clue how to interact with my sister anymore. She's extremely irritable and sensitive pretty much all the time, especially with my mom and I'm at a loss.

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It's really hard sometimes, I get you. Anything my brother sees as condescending that I say to him, and he'll be fuming about it for hours. Or if I tell him to do something, he'll put it off. Then when I remind him he'll get furious saying you're rushing him. Just yesterday, we went to eat something healthy, but he was complaining and acting snooty because earlier I cut him off when he was saying something. But then he doesn't let anyone get a word in edgewise, so it's hard to avoid. Someone will start saying something, then he'll start to do so at the same time and get agitated. It's just... very tiring to talk with him trying to tip toe through a conversation.

How old is your sister? Does that have to do with it? Or is she older?

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"Cogito, ergo vos es eggo." A.K.A. "I think, therefore you are a waffle."

She's 16. It's not like I'm even telling her to do chores or anything like that. It's really noticeable with my mom, where she pretty much seems to take anything my mom says the wrong way and flips out about it, or else replies to questions my mom asks her in a really hostile, disrespectful tone.

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Yeah, sounds about right. It could be just the generic rebellious phase. Or do you know of any cause for her actions?

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"Cogito, ergo vos es eggo." A.K.A. "I think, therefore you are a waffle."

I guess, it seems like more than that though.

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Nah. Every kid has a phase where they're hostile toward everyone. Your sister will be ok. If she does have trouble with something, though, all you can to do is be there to help her up when she falls down.

Good luck, dude.

Oh, hey. Haven't seen you in a while, yog.

And yeah, that's pretty much it. Me and my brother started our hostile phases early. Hopefully he'll be over it in his early teens. As for you, Tuor, just be supportive, but don't let her walk over you if the situation arises.

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"Cogito, ergo vos es eggo." A.K.A. "I think, therefore you are a waffle."

My siblings never have, and never will "walk all over me", my brother hasn't and my sister sure as hell wont, that's what being the oldest is all about.

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