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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby G-O » Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:39 pm

Haha, well I can't blame Kishimoto, he just made it too obvious so it was only a matter of time. But at least he went through with it and didn't bust a Monarch and just randomly chose someone like Konohamaru. Still it is interesting considering Kakashi and Naruto's view on ninja life are based on what Tobi once said to Kakashi.
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby WiNg0o » Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:51 pm

http://mangastream.com/read/rock_lee/39020548/1

It is kind of sad that I'm finding Rock Lee's spring time of youth to be a lot more enjoyable than Naruto.
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby nobody » Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:49 am

Bleach is pulling a "I'm not the real big bad boss" move
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby EagleMan » Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:28 pm

Naruto
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seriously?
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby Mir@k » Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:56 am

I didn't understand that panel with obito saying "take care of your older parts?" to madara.

Bleach is always the same shit, you know some shit is going to happen when the good guy is spending so many panels gloating about how big his dick is. Yamamoto, being ironic going "you speak too much", which is what he's been doing for four issues already, defeated a fake juha bach, who was a total and complete pussy despite his implied superpowers when dismembering those arrancar dudes with his mind.

I just hope the "real" juha bach doesn't curb stomp yamamoto just so that ichigo has to deal with that shit, it would be better if yamamoto just pulled an "i'm tired, you do it" instead. I mean with this being the last arc, i'm wondering if we're ever even gonna see 100% hollow ichigo again.
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby G-O » Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:44 pm

I'm sure it was just translated incorrectly. As far as bleach goes, I agree with Mir@k, it's just the same thing every fight.
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby nobody » Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:21 pm

It's pretty much obvious that the fake was there to draw the powers of the bankai, so the real one would just come in and steal the bankai, leaving the old man helpless and making ichigo fight even harder when he has to come in and take on the stolen bankai of the most powerful shinigami.
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby Senel » Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:44 am

And the fans whine about Bleach ending 'far too soon'.
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby Vegedus » Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:42 pm

I've been keeping up with the mangoo pretty sporadically since mangastream closed and I couldn't find a place with decent translations and a feed, so I just caught up with Naruto, reading some 20 chapters in a row. Coupled with the right music, it felt kinda... Epic. A break might have been good to break up the boring routine.
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby G-O » Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:33 pm

Does anyone else read History's strongest disciple Kenichi? I can't be the only one right?
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby WiNg0o » Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:13 pm

G-O wrote:Does anyone else read History's strongest disciple Kenichi? I can't be the only one right?


I read it at this point just to see how terrible it can possibly get, kinda like Toriko.
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby Vegedus » Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:10 pm

I've skimmed a chapter or two on occasion because boobs.

The females' clothing seems to be made of paper.
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby WiNg0o » Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:30 pm

Vegedus wrote:I've skimmed a chapter or two on occasion because boobs.

The females' clothing seems to be made of paper.


Miu is supposed to be wearing a "protective suit" that apparently gets blown away by a decent kick.
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby spazmonkey » Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:50 pm

I'm not a fan of the latest bleach, Yamamoto is acting like a little kid.
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby G-O » Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:58 pm

Damn Kakashi, What the hell? Why you taze her bro,

WiNg0o wrote:
Vegedus wrote:I've skimmed a chapter or two on occasion because boobs.

The females' clothing seems to be made of paper.


Miu is supposed to be wearing a "protective suit" that apparently gets blown away by a decent kick.


yeah, I won't lie, the fan service has been getting more and more ridiculous but I still think it's one of the best fighting mangas out there that doesn't rely too much on super powers (or clothes for that matter)
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby Grieffon » Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:50 pm

As for the Bleach chapter, is Yamamoto just stupid? Even if it was true that the Vandereich can only steal bankai if they knew about their powers, his bankai would get stolen anyway. The second in command was there the whole time, and he already saw all the abilities of Zanka no Tachi.
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby Glahardt » Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:10 pm

Can't blame him.
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby WiNg0o » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:21 am

G-O wrote:Damn Kakashi, What the hell? Why you taze her bro,

WiNg0o wrote:
Vegedus wrote:I've skimmed a chapter or two on occasion because boobs.

The females' clothing seems to be made of paper.


Miu is supposed to be wearing a "protective suit" that apparently gets blown away by a decent kick.


yeah, I won't lie, the fan service has been getting more and more ridiculous but I still think it's one of the best fighting mangas out there that doesn't rely too much on super powers (or clothes for that matter)


They keep talking about KI and characters are able to crush tanks, blow through walls, and reflect bullets.

Not to mention that it isn't only subtly racist but overtly racist as well.

I seriously can't see any reason the manga is so popular outside of fan service, and to be honest if you want tits e-hentai is that way ->
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby Senel » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:09 am

I've got the sinking feeling that Madara was the cause of Kakashi killing Rin.
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby G-O » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:58 am

WiNg0o wrote:
G-O wrote:Damn Kakashi, What the hell? Why you taze her bro,

WiNg0o wrote:
Vegedus wrote:I've skimmed a chapter or two on occasion because boobs.

The females' clothing seems to be made of paper.


Miu is supposed to be wearing a "protective suit" that apparently gets blown away by a decent kick.


yeah, I won't lie, the fan service has been getting more and more ridiculous but I still think it's one of the best fighting mangas out there that doesn't rely too much on super powers (or clothes for that matter)


They keep talking about KI and characters are able to crush tanks, blow through walls, and reflect bullets.

Not to mention that it isn't only subtly racist but overtly racist as well.

I seriously can't see any reason the manga is so popular outside of fan service, and to be honest if you want tits e-hentai is that way ->


I never said there weren't any super powers in the series, I simply mentioned that the series doesn't rely on them too much. Also, the only characters to have such abilities are the master class fighters an even then it's used as a way to show the large gap between master and student class. As far as the bullet thing goes, I think there is only one character that has ever done anything of the sort (and even then I think it was with a sword, but I could be wrong) because the series has established that they're vulnerable to bullets and sharp objects as a few characters have been shot and stabbed and at least one was shot to death.

I don't know about the racist thing, You'll have to be more specific on that.

And yeah, the fan service is what I believe keeps the series from being among the more popular shonen mangas out there. No manga series is without it's flaws and I stick by what I said as far it being one of the best battle mangas out there, and if you can't look past the fan service too enjoy it, then to each his own I guess.
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby Vegedus » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:13 pm

One could also argue that regularly depicting females in such a manner is sexist, making it two kinds of ist.

G-O wrote:And yeah, the fan service is what I believe keeps the series from being among the more popular shonen mangas out there.

I think WiNg0o is saying the manga is popular because of the fan-service, not in spite of.
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby G-O » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:03 pm

Vegedus wrote:One could also argue that regularly depicting females in such a manner is sexist, making it two kinds of ist.

G-O wrote:And yeah, the fan service is what I believe keeps the series from being among the more popular shonen mangas out there.

I think WiNg0o is saying the manga is popular because of the fan-service, not in spite of.


Yeah, I understood that part, What I meant is that it's a shame the series is popular for it's fan service as oppose to it's actual fights.
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby WiNg0o » Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:51 am

There are plenty of decent fighting manga, Kenichi is just completely terrible. The only arc that carried it was the original one where Kenichi is a bullied kid who rises up, after that the manga lost all sense of reality when it brought out this Yomi/Yami bullshit.

If you want mostly believable non magical fist fights go read Ippo, if you want mostly believable non magical sword fights go read Vagabond.
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby G-O » Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:42 pm

Ippo is fun, I own the first few dvd's of the anime. Never heard of the other one but I'll check it out.
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Re: Shounen Manga Discussion(Naruto Bleach etc. spoilers inside)

Postby WiNg0o » Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:23 am

Vagabond has one of the best artists working on it ever. His lines are like finger porn and all his characters are so uniquely drawn. It doesn't fuddle around with techniques in fights but rather the implications of the fights.
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