Sentios wrote:The system does nothing to bring new users to the board
We don't have a direct method of influencing the amount of new people coming to the site or forums. If BR had the power to add/remove comics on the site we would, but we don't. That's right, think all you want it's still the comics that actually get new users to come. All we can influence, which is still next to impossible without at least the slightest bit of help from Dave, is how many of the new users have the incentive to stay on the forum.
We're not even hoping to make the forum "popular" again, just to make it "stable" in terms of activity.
We do realise many of you guys are concerned, we can see that. It seems though like you guys don't have the slightest bit of trust in BR and the rest in what is being attempted here. I'm trying to see it from your position and that's why I said, if you're going to look on the changes we've done or somewhat vaguely mentioned so far, and judge that the final product will look like that, you will be mistaken. We have not provided you guys with enough information to enable you to accurately judge the outcomes. And that's because we are still working on issues and ideas in progress, and thus don't share them with you guys. I realise this may be frustrating to see when mods just keep saying "hey, hear me out, this isn't going to be so terrible", but the pictures we're both seeing is a little different guys. Heck some of you guys come here arguing points we've already argued through and problems we've already decided how to counter. So if it feels to you guys that we're ignoring your opinions it's not because we don't give a crap what you think, it's because we are still shaping the final ideas and making decisions.
And sorry, we can't keep you guys all updated with every idea that comes up. So far it's been a bunch of things that we "did", some that we "tested", many that we "want to implement" and then those we "wish we could implement", as well as those "we could implement if Dave actually does something". There's still too much uncertainty as to what we will be actually able to do and what we will actually do, even we don't know yet, so even we aren't making big predictions ourselves as to what the outcome will be. We will have to figure it out as we go along.
It's baffling for me to see some of you panic that we're destroying the forum and the site when the only
thing we actually implemented so far, aside from small fixes, is the probation system. And nobody seems to be complaining that it was a retarded idea that's going to destroy the forum.
NeoWarrior7 wrote:We'll see I guess.
I still think you're overstating how bad it would be to have an open forum for change discussion rather than a "special" caste one.
It's not that "it would be a terrible idea", we're not that dramatic about it. It will simply make it easier and more fluent. Having some long-term users be able to be adding suggestions the users would like to see implemented. This way we can avoid having to squeeze through dozens of impossible, unwanted, hyped, and repeated suggestions that will never happen trying to dig out those with actual potential. Hey even the newbies can have a good idea or a suggestion. They will be able to easily gain the ability to read that forum, and they will always have the ability to at least propose something. Heck, even newbies who can't even see or read the forum will still be able to submit a suggestion for discussion if they come up with something good. We just don't think we need to flood those threads with users.