It's not that I don't care at all. Like I said, I've been around this forum a long time so I have some affinity for it, but ultimately I think you guys are free to do as you please. I'm not going to get genuinely angry or upset as long as the choices you're making are, in your opinion, in the best interest of the forum. I find the discussion interesting either way.
I respect this.
Also I'm sorry I implied that your becoming an admin was stupid. Clearly I don't really know you very well and my opinions were based on relatively brief interactions or impressions from other posts.
Thanks! I'm sorry if anything I said could have been interpreted as insulting to you, too (some of it, yeah, definitely could). You're fairly solid, using as evidence this minor argument becoming a much more substantial and polite discussion. :)
Regarding RP vs Spam? I honestly don't know much about that. I don't really consider myself a part of RP so much as just a part of this forum. I may be technically most active here but I posted pretty much everywhere if something interested me. My dislike for Spam was personal and not out of some strange gang-related grudge or turf war or something.
I'm not a fan of "randomness". That's not funny to me. And that's kind of what Spam lived off of.
Now see, I AGREE with you on not liking "randomness". However, I believe Spam's spontaneity to not necessarily be a breach into randomness, but more like "improvised role play" in any given thread.
I think whatever happened between the subsections came about because both had very different ideas of how to waste their time. RP wants to play pretend, which some people find stupid. Spam wants to spout nonsense or not be constrained by single topics, which some people find stupid. In the end it's kind of a silly thing to get worked up about either way.
Completely agreed again. :)
If everyone on both ends wants to bury that hatchet then that's cool. However Spam's sense of humor will probably always be pretty different from my own so I can't say I'll ever really "like" it.
And that's fine. If you do ever want to try it, though, I would recommend it. You'd just have to keep in mind that the threads are, by and large, not outright RANDOM, but more like tweets on Twitter--short ideas that spring into big ideas. I think the comparison is apt. Spam is the "Texting-minded" forum.
As far as becoming a mod again, well it's pretty much like Jay said, I don't feel I'm around enough to warrant the position anymore, even if I do care about forum issues or changes. I stepped down because I was pretty vocal in saying inactive people shouldn't keep mod status so when I considered my attendance sparse enough to be 'inactive' then it would have been hypocritical to keep it.
I understand and respect this, and will leave you alone on this matter henceforth.
I mean, if you honestly think the forum would benefit from having me as a mod again even if I only really pop in once a month or so (this activity these past few days has been an exception) then I suppose I wouldn't mind having the position back. I just couldn't really promise that I'd be around to take care of reports or ban bots or whatever.
Also Grey is pretty cool even if he has bad taste in music.
See, now, this is what I want out of the Gold Forum: a platform for veterans, like you, to be able to address issues to the forum without bearing the responsibility as a mod to enforce those policy decisions. An impromptu senate, of sorts, that lets you bring up topical information for the betterment of the forums.
Valhallen has already made the most significant idea on this idea, and said that the system should have more than one tier, and be treated not as an elitism clique caste stratification, but as a reward system for participating in the community.
Here, in my head, is a brief go-over of how I would like the system to work with those multi-tiers
Newbies join, and if they stay for a month or two, they are auto-upgraded to a "bronze" tier, and can now MAKE their own threads, having proven that they like the forums enough to want to provide content.
Then, they stick around longer, and offer to help newbies, and are generally being great, so they get again, automatically tuned up to a "silver" tier, where they can manage more forum privileges. The forum right now has no "attachment" permissions, and that could be one of the things that trusted members earn: the ability to upload into the forum's database, pictures and documents.
Finally, they would have to, by reading the rules for the system, go into their user control panel and privately apply for Gold Membership.
In the Gold forum, veterans would be able to discuss the forums and have a direct connection to the moderators so that they have a way to let the moderators know of an issue or innovation they'd prefer.
And they'd get the privilege to embed flash files, which is quite neat, I think.
That way, the forum has incentive for newbies to want to gain bonuses in the forum by adhering to its principles, and the community has a sense of upward progression.
Gold Card Members would be strictly and explicitly told that it is their job to help newbies and lower-tiered people to get to the Gold level, and we would have a very strict policy on using Gold privileges, so that any abuse would be quickly stamped out, and if they abused it, like, more than two times, they'd immediately lose Gold Membership and drop down straight back to non-tiered, as punishment. Then they'd have to reprove and work their way back up.
We're not trying to be dividing, we're trying to make a system that encourages the growth of the community.
Does that sound more reasonable?