Since it's going to be in space, it would be a lower delta-v to mine asteroids. For a full-size Death Star, we'd need to refine perhaps one percent of the asteroid belt or a big chunk of one of the larger asteroids. There are enough basic resources in the solar system to build the million Death Stars called for with plenty to spare. The bigger problem is that we don't currently have the technology base to built a proper Death Star, like a reactor with a sustained output of three million suns, or a laser that can outshine a galaxy while carrying an energy load with a mass equivalence greater than Ceres. Or the ridiculous materials needed. Or hyperdrive, shields, holonet, etc.

In choosing this topic, I wanted to pursue two basic lines of discussion. First, it's a fun science fantasy what-if scenario. Second, it is a discussion of the merits of a major real-world project to conquer the galaxy. What is there to be gained, and would that merit the launch of a major space project (not necessarily a Death Star, but something huge that would permanently claim space for humanity) with current or near-future technology?

Eh, not really. We first need to establish someone to claim it AGAINST.
On the other hand, preparation is key. Hm.
Still, a tad extreme while all we're facing is ourselves and the elements.


Now, a giant colonizing/terraforming/exploring ship, that could be useful. Or a planet-cracker, that could break open planets, drain all the resources, and build more planet-crackers.

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Well.. as for the insane amount of resources we would need to accomplish this... Please allow me to remind you that nothing is a resource until we know how to use it. Land that contains oil used to be worthless because no one knew you could refine it and transform it into gasoline, etc. The deepest mine is only about 2 miles deep, while the distance from the surface to the core is almost 4000 miles; we've hardly scratched the surface. It's entirely possible that Earth contains enough resources for the job.

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But would strip mining an entire planet be a good idea, I'm sure there's a point where there's only so much structural integrity you could rip out or so much you could pull from the core or mantle before catastrophe.

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Take shit from Pluto, Pluto isn't a planet anymore. ;D

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I was specifically replying to Ruff about using earth, considering it's the only habitable planet in the solar system.

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Plus, I feel like we could use all that material better on Earth anyways.

Maybe we should turn EARTH into the Death Star. A Super Death Star.

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Lol, why would we get rid of all our resources in the first place? That just doesn't make sense.

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before counquering we should work on finding a suitable alternate planet to live on

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or not conquer at all cuz we don't need to :o

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We don't even have anything to conquer.

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Mining on Pluto would be a total bitch. Much worse than mining in Antarctica. Half the year during Pluto's "winter" the whole goddamn atmosphere freezes out and falls to the ground.


How about we build several enormous engines into the ground with exhaust facing out into space, and turn the Earth into a space vessel? Imagine, sun burning out, growing and getting ready to explode. Planets still orbit obediently. Earth says: "fuck this, I'm out" and flies away on its own, like a boss.

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Because that's the worst problem of mining at pluto.

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let's mine Jupiter

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Mine what? There's no solid surface. Only gas, then liquid gas. Best you can do is shove a giant straw into it and slurp it out.

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(I know that, QU)

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Weren't you playing the inspired dumb guy and me playing the know-it-all buzzkill guy?

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Q.U. It's time to shhhhhhhh.

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Lol that's quite ironic warbear.

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no one knows sarcasm on here anymore...

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It's like everyone has gotten stupider.

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Would anyone tell me if I'm getting stupider?

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There's no point in building something that large, especially for possibly offensive/defensive purposes, if force field technology is not feasible, as it would be much easier for any force to take out a massive spaceship, due to its inability to maneuver and the possibility of cascading failures from damage to one section of the ship to other parts (or a massive investment in redundancies which just means you'd be better off with smaller ships). Even for colonizing purposes it really isn't necessary. You'd want to have several ships in case anything happened to a ship, so the whole populace doesn't go down. If you're worried about breeding, presumably future colonial ships would carry plenty of frozen sperm and eggs to maintain genetic diversity well into the future, so that the number of humans and inbreeding does not become an issue.

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What if we were completely alone in this universe?
existential question is existential

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The more planets we discover the less likely that is.

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