Other nations with the spoken intent of "wiping [us] off the face of the earth
" or something similar
don't constitute a threat to you?
So you're implying that a nation which couldn't even take it's next door neighbor in a war at this point is going to run half way around the globe and pose any kind of threat to us? As for second link...
>a credible news source
Even then the article is about a counter attack in the event we attack them, so all your saying is if a foreign nation would try to defend itself from us then it's a threat.
What about North Korea and Iran? In just a few years, they may pull something out of their ass that's actually terrifying, and instead of just testing it on their next-door neighbors, they use it to attack our ships, our planes, our territories or our allies. Shouldn't we be prepared for when that happens?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_probability
If your enemies have a [weapon] that is accurate up to 500 yards but suffers beyond its maximum firing range of 2000 yards, and your [weapon] is laser-guided for accuracy beyond 2000 yards, isn't that a huge difference in efficacy?
Not if it costs 100 times more, you may as well be shooting bullets made of gold.
First of all, stick to one terminology or tell us what the alternative should be. Don't base me for using "entitlement programs" and then unabashedly use it yourself, otherwise you look like an idiot. I mean, you already sound like an idiot for saying "money spent on the military is money thrown away"---at least, to MetsFan. I just think you're writing without thinking, which isn't the same thing.
Second, when you say "The feds will be able to pay for social security when they stop misappropriating it's funds." Isn't that just a concession to the fact that the funds are being wasted? So why can't we say "money spent on entitlements is money wasted?" Because you think that money goes to good use and it would be wrong to question it?
So you don't like it when your favorite buzzword can be used against you? Duly noted, but it doesn't change the fact that the military can be thought of as a welfare program.
Secondly that's a concession that there is massive unchecked corruption in the government, but that has nothing to do with the programs that are being deprived of their funds themselves. For example "money spent on entitlements is money wasted?" can only be true if the money IS being spent on entitlements, which it clearly isn't since they're underfunded. It also assumes that the money that IS actually spent on them is being wasted, which depends on many outside factors like efficiency. Without a doubt medicare is wasteful, but that's because our medical industry is exceedingly inefficient. As percentage, our medical administrative costs alone are 4-5 times higher than European nations.
Then don't re-elect Obama.
As for "improving" the nation, I'll give you that killing bin Laden didn't give us healthcare or rebuild our roads, make college any less expensive or put a "stop" sign on that street corner where the gazelle was killed, but why are you ignoring the fact that there's one less group of people that want to kill Americans?
I don't vote, it's all the same shit. I've not seen a candidate yet that I actually want in the oval office.
As for people who want to kill Americans you need to ask yourself how many we created in the process of chasing down the one. How many families were torn apart by arrests, assassinations, or as collateral for starters? It's important not to create a self fulfilling prophecy, but that's all the war on terror is. The extremists don't even need to try to convince people of the existence of the western aggressors because we are in fact aggressors from the west.
you say modern imperialism, i say protective globalization. actually, scratch that: the belief that the current, international capitalist way of doing things has anything to do with conquering and subjugating people is loopy
we whiteys already tried imperialism, and it didn't work out too well
spreading/protecting influence IS NOT imperialism
that's why middle eastern kids can buy cheap, bootleg dvds on the side of a dusty road: friggin capitalism, not imperialism
enslaving people is too damn messy and they bitch about it for centuries
maintaining a military which can strike immediately and most likely pretty effectively across the globe assures that an outbreak of actual war declared upon the us by another state will be dealt with ASAFP
last sentence ain't worth jack
The reason I say modern imperialism is precisely because it's not like the imperialism of yesteryear. Today's imperialism is use of military force to back our control of other, typically developing, nation's economies. The end result is the same as imperialism, what's ours is ours and what yours is ours.
support for a powerful military and investment in infrastructure are not mutually exclusive
if you think that there isn't support for this thing up in DC, you dumb
GOP's blocking it, surprise surprise
They're not mutually exclusive but they are fighting over the same pool of resources and the one that can use fear tactics and mass hysteria to sway the votes has been winning for a long time now.
there's sense in keeping your gun well-oiled, and there's sense in research/development for better weapons
if you think that humanity is done scheming up ways to kill one another, you need to read some history books
Being the leader in ways to kill people isn't something to be proud of, especially not when your economy won't exist in 20 years.
it's not a fucking welfare program, any more than any other government office which gets shit done. you think that a marine don't deserve to be paid for VOLUNTEERING to keep himself in tip-top shape and wear shitloads of stuff in the desert?
pilots who spend years training to learn how to fly something that needs to use the word "MACH" to describe how badass it is?
the guy who just helped a vet recover from PTSD?
the guy who helped a kid go to college?
i could go on simply listing the job descriptions of DoD personnel
but they don't just sit around their red phones with their thumbs up their asses and wait for the next check to come
it's not welfare, and it's actually pretty goddamn offensive to call the most powerful force ever a welfare program just because the government pays them
It is a welfare program, it creates jobs that would not exist naturally in the economy with very few exceptions. By your logic I should be able to strap on some weights and go stand out in Nevada to collect a paycheck. Racing should be the highest paid profession and we need more doctors to treat people with conditions that they gave themselves by going against their own good sense and morality.
NATO bombing the shit out of Qaddafi was not a waste of money, people won't forget that there were Western planes up in the air while they fought tooth and nail for their independence. i think we kinda need friends in the region, or at least a few brownie points. worth it to see a stagnant dictatorship replaced with yet another vibrant quasi-democracy
and they have oil
Al Qaeda doesn't have any more teeth or any more stones. anyone with a brain can see that they won't be around for long
and it's hella hard to capitalize on what you do have while your shit keeps getting bombed and your people blown up
Call me in 10 or 20 years with an update on how appreciative they are of US involvement in their affairs. As for Al Qaeda, even if we destroy them they'll be back in a decade or two. You can't bomb your way out of people disliking you.
Sure, we CAN take them out if something goes down---but the question really is, "should we wait that long?"
That mentality doesn't deter wars, it starts them.