BeeAre wrote:hey could you be more specific as to which parts of each comic are the worst offenders? i would like some actually useful criticism.
Well, it's pretty early in the morning, and I have some free time to make a long ass post. Just as I promised, my criticism towards these three comics, not really sure if anyone is gonna take me seriously now. I mean, I've been explaining some of the flaws in the comics in the last few months, especially with PPGD, and all BR got from all those months was "I don't like it, period", ignoring the rest of the post. I decided to make another long ass post, and received no answers from the man. To be fair, most of my criticism is towards PPGD, so he must think I hate him or something. That's not the case, and that's why we will start with Sugar Bits, then Grim Tales, and last, but not least, PPGD. Also, to make things less tedious, I will only explain the main flaws, not review the whole fucking comic.
But before we start, please avoid posting stuff like "if you don't like it, don't read it", "make your own comic then", "it's not like you can write any better!", or something retarded as that. I'm not a great artist, although I try. Seriously, the main reason I can't draw is because I see so many flaws in my drawings, it's just embarrassing, people might tell me "it's decent", but I just hate it. Also, I don't want to sound like a fucking douche and tell the people I could write a better story, because I seriously don't know. But you can bet your ass I would try very fucking hard to make a good job, because I'm not only a writer, but also a fan. I think the writer should always be at the same level of the fans, and do it for the purpose of telling a story he/she strongly believes in, rather than to receive credit and fame. Anyways, let's proceed.
This comic started pretty bad. No, I'm not even talking about the introduction, but the creation of the comic itself. Bleedman was, at the time, the most popular artist in DeviantArt, everyone loved him at that time thanks to PPGD and Grim Tales. The first saga of Grim Tales finally ends, and he asks the fans what should he do now? Ummm... kinda of obvious, isn't it? I mean, everyone loves (or at least loved at the time) GT, you left us in a pretty critical situation, so the answer is obvious... SUGAR BITS IT IS! [/sarcasm]
Seriously, I'm not sure why he decided to abandon everyone and start this comic. Yes, I know that thanks to the fan demand, he decided to continue Grim Tales 7 months later, but when Sugar Bits started, it was uncertain if he would ever return. Still, the comic had some charm thanks to the interesting designs and overall cute characters. As for the story, it had a really "mehhh" start. But this is the moment where the comic truly jumped the shark:
Lame joke, lulz
No, but seriously, this is where the real problem started: Link
After that, the infamous battle finally started. Better grab a snack, because this fight will last for...72 pages, which took 3 years to make! Some pretty interesting dialogue that is easily lost thanks to all the unnecessary explosions and constant elements that just won't let this fight end. So much potential wasted. It's really a shame if you think about it, because at this point, many characters have been introduced, yet, you barely know them. There's this hauntergeist called Mindsnare, who I know nothing about. Licorice, the only character I like in the whole comic, not thanks to her "original" personality, but because she is the only character that shows some passion. Seriously, she's so fucking evil, and she loves it, you have to respect that. Don't know a single thing about Brave (from the mastermind who created PPGD's most beloved character, Naga! You know, the Mary Sue in the moon), Ginger, the Lion (forgot his name), Gene, the rabbit girl who appeared in the first chapter, or Bleedheart. You might also think, “Well, that was 3 years ago”, but you are missing the point. Let’s assume that Bleedman updates the Sugar Bits comic every day, still, there are 72 pages, so that would require two and a half months of these characters constantly fighting (and let’s face it, thanks to Bleedheart’s sudden appearance, I doubt the fight is over, but people, including me, are excited because the character is finally able to shine!). It’s not how much it takes to update the comic what really matters, but the contents of the page itself.
So Robin, Bo and Hansel are the only characters I know to a certain point, but they are so fucking boring. It might just be me, but I can't find Bo laying in the floor, probably dead, something tragic. I just don't care for her. Ironically, the characters I know the best are the least useful characters in the whole fight, constantly running away or getting their asses kicked.
And why did this fight had to last for three years? You can blame it on all the elements that were brought into the fight, like all those bunnies who attacked Gene and Hansel, then that giant fucking robot who appeared from the ground, then Red, who decided to appear out of nowhere thanks to Mindsnare, then the wolf arrived too and made things even harder for our heroes, and now we have Bleedheart. Who cares about character development when we can have a fight that will last forever? It's like watching Matrix Revolutions again. WHO WROTE THIS?!?
Why not do the following?
1. The whole battle from Hansel's perspective. Sure, Robin, Bo and Brave arrive, but we will only focus in Hansel. That will save us a lot of time, develop his character, and even make the audience feel a little sorry for Bo. It will make her sacrifice a little more significant. By having so many characters fighting at the same time, there are so many things happening, we just can't focus in anyone. And seriously, does anyone feel sorry for a sacrifice that had no effect in the battle? Again, it's like in Matrix Revolutions, when Captain Mifune is mortally wounded and tells that guy to open the gate, you expect something to happen and change the tides of the battle, but all this sequence is completely useless, as nothing really happens!
2. The fight is over before we get a chance to even see it! It works because this whole battle started in order to summon Bleedheart. Seriously, even with all the losses from both sides, the only thing that really mattered was Bleedheart. How about something like this? Gene and Hansel don't have a chance to survive, Bo, Robin, Nemo and Brave appear out of nowhere, then like a billion rabbits appear. The chapter closes, and the next chapter opens with all those rabbits dead, our heroes alive, but injured, and Bo in her last breath. Awesome, it's 2008 and Bleedheart just appeared!
Oh, but don't worry guys, the fans are having such a great time with this battle, we don't mind that Bleedman cameo with both Licorice and Ginger.
Grim Tales WHAM
Many fans are wondering why the hell this comic even exists. Grim Tales ended back in 2009, and then someone got the brilliant idea of making an actual GT comic and sell it. Nothing happened for two years, so we got this comic instead, but again, why do we need this story if we got an actual ending? The fans demanded more? Ummm... Ok?
I don't know, while I did enjoy the first three chapters in GT, I found the rest of the comic pretty lacking, rushed and poorly written. All the charm was gone, which is a shame because they brought many promising elements. So the Pumpkinator is destroying (more like eating) everything, and they bring Dark Danny to stop it, but seriously, the character was overall useless because he got his ass kicked in round 2. The main problem with this is that the fight is completely irrelevant to the plot. Sure, that thing is a huge fucking threat to everyone, but the plot is with Grim Jr. and how he tries to rescue Minnie. They focused so much in that thing... it was just plain pointless. How about more important information? Like who is Junior's father?
Mr. Writer: Oh, you want to know who is Junior's real father? Sure... let me think of another flashback to...
OH GOD, NO! If this flashback proved something is that sometimes it's better for some stuff to be left unclear. I mean, sure, I want to know who Junior’s father is, but why not just mention him and that's it? Why didn't Nergal just said "oh, and does [insert name here] granted you permission to be a father to his son?", and then Grim is all pissed and says "don't you dare to bring that man into this conversation". The point is, we don't need 20 pages of flashback just to learn something which, in the end, was pretty trivial and unimportant to the plot.
So much stuff was brought as absolute, with little to no explanation in the end, so it was pretty unsatisfactory, but at least we got an ending. In fact, the stuff that was pretty important, like transferring Minnie's soul to this new body, Nergal inside the pumpkinator, Junior trying to understand his new powers, any reason why Nergal Jr. would accept to give Mandy a daughter, Mimi overall, so many promising elements were brought, and yet, most of them were unexplained, and we got this ending anyways. It's not like this universe will expand itself like Star Wars or anything, where you can leave as much stuff out as you want, and explain it later, it's just a webcomic, if you guys are truly wanting to expand this into a franchise, you are wasting your time, no way Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, and the other companies are going to allow you to. Just give us the answers and let it be what it is, a fucking webcomic.
Oh, but this isn't the ending, now we have a new story were Mimi must look for an Artifact in order to save Jeff. Alright, a pretty decent synopsis, we know her motivation, what is at stake, so this should be a pretty entertaining comic, right? RIGHT?!?
So Mimi enters the castle, too bad all the guards surround her. Oh, wait, out of nowhere she is fucking invincible and can easily beat everyone who challenges her. Again, why? You know what, fuck it, she is invincible, period. When you expect Grim Jr. to have an effect on her, she beats the living shit out of him, Minnie decides to fight her, we get another fight, Minnie is defeated and left with Junior, and Mimi decides to proceed. But watch out, there are hundreds of character cameos that won't have an effect in the plot trying to stop you! Oh, and Dark Danny is having sex with Mandy.
And a personal issue I have with the comic is Mandy and Grim's relationship. So Grim is glad that Mandy did all that stuff on Earth, and decides to marry her, but overall, it just seems something weird to me. Call me an idiot if you want, but I was always under the impression that Grim was Junior's father, his real father, that somehow he managed to impregnate Mandy and had this son. I was always under the impression that Minnie was brought to this world like a way to make Nergal Jr. loyal to Mandy, as he was a pretty valuable asset, I don't know. The problem I have with this is that Mandy is still a horrible wife and treats Grim like crap all the time, and yet, he has nothing to win in this marriage. He can't have any son, all his sons are product of strangers, and Mandy is constantly fucking with strangers. For what purpose? Seriously, what does she want? An army? And Grim has no problem with this? It sorta makes the whole marriage thing unnecessary, again, just a personal issue, it has nothing to do with WHAM, but I find this relationship overall stupid.
Where did I left? Oh yeah, so Mimi fights that dog, those robots, and Mandy, again, none of this represents a challenge to her. So why not do what I said previously? One page shows all the elements Mimi is going to fight against, and in the next one, all those elements finally defeated and Mimi with the artifact. Valuable time, you know? But no, I guess the story is pretty bad and you guys must compensate us with more unnecessary fights. Like Mister Plinkett said, it's like watching a short man, getting bald, and probably with a small penis. He buys himself a fucking Lamborghini to compensate all his flaws. I can only see these cameos and unnecessary fights as a way to compensate the poor writing, unsuccessfully, I might add.
So Mandy allows Mimi to get this artifact, and out of nowhere, it activates and takes us to a flashback. I'm not really sure if this artifact is a reference from a cartoon or something, so please enlighten me if that's the case. Anyways, this flashback takes us to a destroyed Megaville (which was quite a controversial move from Grids, as it doomed the PPGD storyline, but then he calmed down and decided to have this Megaville in a different timeline/dimension). Why couldn't they do something like this?
Instead we are forced to watch a flashback where some guys I just don't care about are fighting in order to protect Mimi. Why? Why is she so important to everyone? And what the hell were they doing there to begin with? I mean... ughhh... was this written with fucking crayons? It's just terrible. Not surprisingly, they decide to mention a "traitor" in the group, and no one mentions this again. What, are they going to make another Grim Tales saga with this traitor? Do they seriously expect this thing to continue forever?
More sacrifice with little to no importance, and then Blossom finally appears, revealing that she is Mimi's mother. You know, because a sentence wasn't enough, this flashback was 100% necessary. The main problem with this is that she just floats there, what's the purpose of having her character if she's not going to do anything? Hell, even trying to escape would be better than just stare at these guys doing their best to stop Him. They die, Him survives and separates these two, end of the flashback.
Now she's really pissed after reviving those horrible moments of her life, and throws a refrigerator and Mandy. Pain and the guards destroy the fridge, and now Mandy is going to activate some shit trying to make Mimi suffer. I can only predict... more fights and flashbacks? Maybe? 51 pages already, you know, I just counted the pages, and in the original Grim Tales from Down Below, in 51 pages we already had a proper introduction, tone, story, we knew all the stakes, characters, villains, etc. Now... *sigh*
Powerpuff Girls Doujinshi
With bright colors and all the cartoons we all loved in our childhood, it's not really that hard to fall in love with this comic and instantly become a fan of Bleedman. Well, I read the first saga a few days ago, and while the effect wasn't the same as 6 years ago, it definitely had something which made me enjoy it again. Quite a simple story, charming and colorful characters, some closure, I had a lot of fun reading this comic.
The fans demanded a second saga, which Bleedman constantly teased (again, I don't know why this guy loves to tease, make fanart, etc., and yet, work in different stuff), and after two and a half years of wait, The Forgotten storyline finally continued. It was until 2009 when we got a proper continuation for PPGD. But this time, Bleedman wasn't alone, he had a new writer, a talented artist who had great coloring skills and Bleedman himself, things were pretty promising.
I gotta admit, the first few pages were pretty... decent, I guess, I mean, they were meant to set the tone of the comic. Things had to be slow, especially after their last adventure, which they barely survived. Time to relax and stuff. At least you feel they are being developed... and then... well, let's just say I'm not a big fan of this second saga.
In my opinion, the real problem started with the ballet recital, pretty early in the comic, when Blossom is forced to use that outfit and Dexter gets a little emotional because he remembers Dee Dee. It's pretty hard, I mean, some scars never fully heal, and this is the case. Suddenly, something goes wrong, Olga asks for someone to repair this, and Dexter goes completely out of character and decides to repair the lights. Was that a joke? More like an attempt because I didn't find it funny. Then Blossom decides to talk with Olga, she reveals her last name, which shocks Blossom, something explodes or falls or whatever, Dexter asks them if they heard it, and the page ends. Again, was that meant to be funny?
I guess at this point everyone expected Olga to be evil and wanting to kill Dexter for what happened to Mandark, but as the story progressed, we found out how unnecessary her character is. Seriously, it could be literally any other character from a Nickelodeon/Cartoon Network cartoon, and it wouldn't have a single effect in the story. She has nothing to offer and her presence is barely important to the plot, so why have her in this story? I remember that BeeAre was pretty pissed because they released a poster of Olga and Dexter walking together with Blossom spying on them, obviously jealous. Are these two characters meant to fall in love and create a love triangle? Based on what? Olga is pointless in this story, I'm still wondering why did you guys focused so much on her when you decided to continue PPGD, especially in the first chapter.
Ughhh... let's continue. So Jack is in class with his students, Buttercup is obviously fucking strong and beats the living shit out of everyone, and gets punished for her actions. I think at this moment I finally find myself bored, because nothing important, or even remotely interesting, is happening. To make matters worse, the characters aren't really being developed, as we already know them. So Buttercup tells Professor Utonium about this, and he goes and meets Sensei Jack. They decide that Buttercup should try something else, and she must also take care of Courage. Is it just me, or these entire elements feel just random and unimportant? So she tries Science, and nothing, then Cooking, and she actually has some talent for cooking. But what does this new talent has to do with the story? Is she like going to cook something with poison and kill Professor X? Make Bell fat with her delicious food so that Blossom can finally fight against her? You know, this new talent is never brought into the current fight, which again, makes me wonder why they even decided to include it in the story. Perhaps one of my favorite moments is when some robot dude wants to attack her, and she closes her eyes and tries to relax in order to fight it. Suddenly she says “fuck it”, and attacks that thing. I find it like a way to represent most (at the time) of the second saga, just plain pointless. Oh, and to make matters worse, they also decided these M.I.B. glasses are so important, we need to have an entire page of an agent giving both Blossom and Buttercup a pair of glasses.
Let's see... oh yeah, Bell in the moon. So another interesting thing happens, Bell is in the moon, and she is sad because she has no friends, except for Gir, who she loved in the first saga, but now, for no apparent reason, isn't really the kind of friend she wants. I liked this scene because it developed her, and we saw her from a new perspective. In the first saga she only appeared with the bad guys and was constantly evil, little space for development. When Mandark dies is when you get a chance to feel her real wrath, but other than that... So again, this was a pretty great moment in the plot, but is suddenly ruined by Naga, who was introduced two years ago, and I still have no idea who he is or what is he supposed to do. Oh well... bleedporn is all the development we need for his character.
But seriously, he was so fucking annoying. Do I detect a Mary Sue? No, wait, that rock passed through his head… HE’S A GHOST, A GHOST I TELL YOU! Whatever, Bell is in the moon because she needs to activate this giant clock thing. You know, it's quite frustrating when you put shit all over the place, and abandon it for so long, or its just plain unimportant to the plot. But I guess that a trip to the beach was way more important. I'll get into that later. Who is Naga? Are we going to explore Bell's character again? I guess not, there's a pretty big fight going on.
There are two specific moments in this saga which I personally hate. Feel free to tell me how much creative control you have in the story, BeeAre.
1. The trip to the beach. I just hate this fucking scene because it was 100% pointless. So Buttercup discovers this new talent of hers, and they decide to go to the beach. You expect at least something to happen, but no! So Buttercup and Dexter are playing with this Frisbee, Dexter catches it, and falls over Olga. Blossom is obviously nervous, or at least uncomfortable because of Olga’s presence, they all share a pretty awkward moment while eating, end of the trip. To be fair, they only used 5 pages for this whole sequence (3 in the beach, 2 were just flashbacks), but again… why? If I have to be honest, back in 2010, I stopped reading the comic at this point, gave up way too early because it’s been a year and nothing (literally) has happened. Missed Snafu overall, decided to read the following updates, and things just got worse.
2. XJ-9 introduction, perhaps the worst introduction I’ve seen in my life. So Dib is running away from Gaz, he did something to her videogame batteries and fears his sister’s wrath. So Gaz captures him, is about to kill him, but out of nowhere, XJ-9 appears with a pair of batteries. Bubbles recognizes her, and we get a very fucking creepy bond between these two. So Jenny is famous? When did that happen? All she did in the first saga is get her ass kicked by the Rowdyruff Boys, and that’s it, she wasn’t really that important to the plot, but a part of something bigger. Well, not anymore, she’s famous and that’s it.
Holy shit, in 30 minutes they will air Die Hard, gotta finish this. So everyone is at the conference, and we get to see some familiar faces. The villains are planning something. Gir jumps over Dr. Wakeman, Jenny tries to capture him, and he uses this chance to put this device on her head which will activate a portal. Oh, so that was her purpose in the story! I guess that’s more than enough justification for her introduction. Oh… wait, no it’s not.
Wait, a crucial part of the plan depended on Gir? Ah, fuck it. Now, I’m not sure if this is truly poor writing or not, but it’s something that has bugged me for a year (the fight started a year ago). The thing is I’m not sure what’s the motivation behind Dr. X and all these villains, to this day, I’m not sure what they want. Asked Seir and he told me that Bell was holding a bomb. Some other user (can’t remember his/her name, feel free to take credit for this theory) told me that the villains want to steal something, I guess from another dimension, buried under the earth, I don’t know. What bugs me is that the villains are 100% aware that this conference is filled with Super Heroes, main reason they have a whole army of robot bugs and creatures strong enough to fight them. So if Bell is holding a bomb, do they want to blow up the whole building, killing everyone? If that’s the case, why not place the bomb a day before the conference? You know, when there were no Super Heroes who could interfere with their plans? They want to steal something? Again, why do it the exact same day? They aren’t called Super Heroes for nothing, they represent a risk to this whole operation. Oh, they want to execute their plan with the Super Heroes there? You know, kill two birds with one stone? Despite the fact that Dr. X knows all about the Powerpuff Girls and how strong they are? I mean, was any thought put into this?!?
So the heroes start fighting against the villains, again, same mistake with the previous comics, they just can’t focus in a single character to save us time and get the plot going. Monkey appears, and he is so essential to the fight, he only blocks one attack, and then decides to fight in the skies with that other robot dude. You know, because we need more and more cameos. Surprising how uninteresting and overall boring Bell is in this fight. I guess there are more important things to focus on, like no more panty shots. Seriously, BeeAre hates those things and constantly tells Bleedman to avoid them, because that’s what really matters in a comic. Let’s see, lame joke where Courage tries to tell all the scientists where the exit is, Olga, Dexter and the rest of the scientists are trying to escape or something… hey, actually these last five pages are pretty good. I mean, nothing exceptional, but for the first time there are references I enjoy (like the Omelette du Fromage, or Courage’s face), because there’s a huge difference between making the joke the center of attention, or just make it something trivial. If the joke is the center of attention, it slows the plot mostly because the only purpose of the page is to tell the joke. If the joke comes as something trivial, it works because the plot keeps going on, and the characters focus on something more important than a fucking joke.
Can’t say if I will like the rest of the saga, I mean, it’s 105 bad pages against 5 where I can’t find any flaw on them. Not sure if the people I want to reply will even bother in reading this fucking text wall, I seriously hope they do, I mean, I decided to do this because BR asked me to. Maybe he was being sarcastic, maybe he actually wanted some fair criticism (which this is, I have criticized all three comics, not just PPGD). To anyone involved, or to the fans, try not to get offended by it, most of the bad words are only used to explain a situation and not to offend anyone. Feel free to post, agree, disagree, etc.