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BobSagat wrote:I credit Steve Jobs because more than just using the mouse and gui for one or two projects he was the one who made it an industry standard. His neck was on the line to try something crazy and different and produce an entire line of computers with all the features we take for granted today. Argue over who made the first mouse (god knows that can go on forever), but who gave the mouse the impact it has today? Undeniably, Steve Jobs.
Rival wrote:Is that really such uncommon knowledge?
Both the German and Polish news mentioned it today(I knew about it before), so I guess it'd be even more common knowledge in the USA.
Rival wrote:Eh he seems to just hate Apple and is just transferring that hate on Jobs.
I don't like Apple products either, but I won't hate a guy for being good at marketing.
Sentios wrote:That's like saying we should credit Neil Armstrong with the entire Apollo mission because he's the name people know.
Sentios wrote:According to some of the internet rumors he was a complete asshole when not on stage. I don't care enough to investigate that though.
Rival wrote:Eh that's kinda how history works though(at least in people's mind).
None of the technological adavancements that allowed European ships to reach the new world were developed by Christopher Columbus either. Plus Columbus was a total asshat, immoral and relatively incompetent and didn't even realize he discovered a new continent. Yet he's still celebrated as one of the most influential people in the history of humanity, since his voyages started a 400+ long span of one continent dominating the entire globe and all the continents being slowly, but surely, united into a single international relations political system due to colonialization.
China in the XV century was more technologically developed than Europe and they could've started colonizing other continents about 50 years earlier. Yet they didn't, due to cultural and political reasons.
Sometimes being "that guy" in the right place at the right time, who uses other peoples' inventions for profit does in fact change the course of history. I think the Colombus analogy is slightly better(though not perfect) than the Armstrong comparision.
Now obviously, you can go all Hegel historicist on my ass, and say that even without Columbus and Jobs things would have played out roughly the same, but that's hypothetical and impossible to prove.
BobSagat wrote:NeoWarrior7 wrote:Can't tell if troll, or just asshole.
Obviously, a twelve year old.Innocence Abandoned wrote:People can make posts from their non-Apple phones good sir or madam.
I will inform you as a person who actually knows what the fuck he's talking about, Steve Jobs helped invent the computer as you know it today.
Not just the laptops and the iPhones, but fucking ALL COMPUTERS can trace their origin back to Steve Jobs saying "Oh hey, why don't we include a MOUSE (that thing where your right hand goes when its not clutching your shriveled dick), a GRAPHICAL USER INTERFACE (that thing where the pretty lights on your screen happen) and a billion other fucking doohickeys like word editors worth giving a damn."
Steve Jobs came up with all of that and Bill Gates (and a million other programmers) copied those ideas.
Bill Gates has acknowledged this, he knows this, he accepts this. He doesn't give a shit cause he's rich as balls. But Bill Gates knows where credit is due. It isn't an issue of PC vs Mac, FUCKING STEVE JOB MADE MODERN COMPUTERS HAPPEN.Innocence Abandoned wrote:You mad bro?
I am mad.
I'm mad because a worthless scumbag little twerp like you is posting stupid shit like "you mad bro?" just because all of your other stupid internet friends do it. I'm mad because you're alive - you, who is only a waste of space and a fucking drain on your parent's life (and anyone else with the misfortune to know you) while Steve Jobs - a person who's actually done something with his life and literally CHANGED THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT - is dead.
Innocence Abandoned wrote:Thanks for the laughs though, was sort of having a bad day before I read this.
Stufflikehearts wrote:So many Steve Jobs threads.
Also, not many people know Jobs and Gates were actually fairly close friends.
Rosso Rose wrote:That picture came from that same interview in which it had that bitchy bitch.
Rival wrote:Rosso Rose wrote:That picture came from that same interview in which it had that bitchy bitch.
Stuff was there, too? No wonder she was the first to mention it.
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