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Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby Wulfespinndel » Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:56 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20110310/ ... ldisasters

Not being too obsessed with stuff like this but the prediction isn't so crazy as what the article itself says. (That part of the sentence I made doesn't reflect my actual views on the article.)

Yahoo! wrote:On March 19, the moon will swing around Earth more closely than it has in the past 18 years, lighting up the night sky from just 221,567 miles (356,577 kilometers) away. On top of that, it will be full. And one astrologer believes it could inflict massive damage on the planet.

Richard Nolle, a noted astrologer who runs the website astropro.com, has famously termed the upcoming full moon at lunar perigee (the closest approach during its orbit) an "extreme supermoon."
When the moon goes super-extreme, Nolle says, chaos will ensue: Huge storms, earthquakes, volcanoes and other natural disasters can be expected to wreak havoc on Earth. (It should be noted that astrology is not a real science, but merely makes connections between astronomical and mystical events.)

But do we really need to start stocking survival shelters in preparation for the supermoon? [Photos: Our Changing Moon]

The question is not actually so crazy. In fact scientists have studied related scenarios for decades. Even under normal conditions, the moon is close enough to Earth to make its weighty presence felt: It causes the ebb and flow of the ocean tides.

The moon's gravity can even cause small but measureable ebbs and flows in the continents, called "land tides" or "solid Earth tides," too. The tides are greatest during full and new moons, when the sun and moon are aligned either on the same or opposite sides of the Earth.

According to John Vidale, a seismologist at the University of Washington in Seattle and director of the Pacific Northwest Seismic Network, particularly dramatic land and ocean tides do trigger earthquakes. "Both the moon and sun do stress the Earth a tiny bit, and when we look hard we can see a very small increase in tectonic activity when they're aligned," Vidale told Life's Little Mysteries, a sister site to SPACE.com.

At times of full and new moons, "you see a less-than-1-percent increase in earthquake activity, and a slightly higher response in volcanoes."

The effect of tides on seismic activity is greatest in subduction zones such as the Pacific Northwest, where one tectonic plate is sliding under another. William Wilcock, another seismologist at the University of Washington, explained: "When you have a low tide, there's less water, so the pressure on the seafloor is smaller. That pressure is clamping the fault together, so when it's not there, it makes it easier for the fault to slip."

According to Wilcock, earthquake activity in subduction zones at low tides is 10 percent higher than at other times of the day, but he hasn't observed any correlations between earthquake activity and especially low tides at new and full moons. Vidale has observed only a very small correlation.
What about during a lunar perigee? Can we expect more earthquakes and volcanic eruptions on March 19, when the full moon will be so close?

The moon's gravitational pull at lunarperigee, the scientists say, is not different enough from its pull at other times to significantly change the height of the tides and thus the likelihood of natural disasters. [Infographic: Phases of the Moon Explained]

"A lot of studies have been done on this kind of thing by USGS scientists and others," John Bellini, a geophysicist at the U.S. Geological Survey, told Life's Little Mysteries. "They haven't found anything significant at all."

Vidale concurred. "Practically speaking, you'll never see any effect of lunar perigee," he said. "It's somewhere between 'It has no effect' and 'It's so small you don't see any effect.'"
The bottom line is, the upcoming supermoon won't cause a preponderance of earthquakes, although the idea isn't a crazy one.

"Earthquakes don't respond as much to the tides as you'd think they would. There should actually be more of an effect," said Vidale.

Most natural disasters have nothing to do with the moon at all. The Earth has a lot of pent up energy, and it releases it anytime the buildup gets too great. The supermoon probably won't push it past the tipping point, but we'll know for sure, one way or the other, by March 20.
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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby Unlimited » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:22 am

I hope this doesn't come true.
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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby Fummoffu » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:05 am

Yay. Supermoon is on my birthday.
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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby Princess » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:05 am

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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby Fummoffu » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:07 am

Time to do everything I have ever wanted to do.
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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby Grey » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:22 am

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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby Fummoffu » Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:59 am

What game is that from?
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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby Princess » Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:02 am

Zelda, Majora's Mask.
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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby Fummoffu » Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:04 am

I bet I'm the only person on this forum who hasn't played Zelda.
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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby Grivous » Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:17 pm

I played, but I didn't liked the game when I had a innocent childhood(with a awesome Nintendo 64). =D
Only in the Twilight Princess I started to like Zelda, and I'll buy the Skyward Sword.

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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby Fummoffu » Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:35 pm

I didn't have a nintendo console.
I used to play pokemon and mario on my gameboy, but that's about it.
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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby Wulfespinndel » Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:27 pm

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Yeah good Zelda reference made, but I need to learn the song of time now.
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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby sam4books » Fri Mar 11, 2011 6:32 pm

I thought the moon was getting further away....

You know what, never mind.
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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby Jingle Males » Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:15 pm

Grivous wrote:Only in the Twilight Princess I started to like Zelda,

Strange how I felt the exact opposite.
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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby Ace of Flames » Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:48 pm

Although I think of Twilight Princess as the second worst Zelda thus far, the only game I truly don't enjoy is Adventure of Link.
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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby Grey » Sat Mar 12, 2011 6:06 am

twilight princess was a fun game but the final boss battle was waaaaaaay too easy
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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby Jay » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:18 am

MM's probably the high point of 3D Zelda, in my eyes.

It just did so much. And all of it well.
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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby Rival » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:20 am

MM was great.

I like OoT most of all Zeldas I played though, just due to the music. I'm aware that's not a very original opinion.
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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby Princess » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:26 am

No, I'm with you on that Rival.
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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby Vegedus » Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:00 am

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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby narutodesu » Sat Mar 12, 2011 1:02 pm

OoT made me wanna get an ocarina. I still kinda want one.
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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby Rival » Sat Mar 12, 2011 2:49 pm


Yeah that's exactly my favorite one.
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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby Kkeellaacc » Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:25 pm

I've always thought Link's Awakening to be the best of all the Zelda's with Majora's Mask in second
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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby Glahardt » Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:02 am

Ace of Flames wrote:Although I think of Twilight Princess as the second worst Zelda thus far, the only game I truly don't enjoy is Adventure of Link.

Then you have seen nothing yet, MAH BOOOIIIIIII
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Re: Supermoon and Natural Disasters?

Postby Jingle Males » Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:41 am

Twilight Princess was good gameplay wise, however it was the story and it's huge multiple plot holes that ruined it for me.    Especialy the one part when they introduced Ganon out of nowhere.   

Lawl how this became a discussion about Zelda all because of a MM reference.
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