Beankyu wrote:Totally agree.
The two most logical responses to this would be she blames Dexter and goes after revenge or she receeds from Dexter until she realizes its not his fault and becomes a love interest again.
Only a fucking moron would see those two ideas as being "the most logical".
madmonkey wrote:Yes, based on when and how she was introduced (finding her dead brothers glasses and then manipulating Dexter into becoming stage manager) it would seem implied she has malicious intentions.
Does she now?
Have you considered the possibility that she means him no harm? Olga has all ready lost extremely close people to her during the last few months or so. Why would she inflict more harm when she has enough to deal with?
If she truly wanted to hurt him, she would have left him there in the audience and not have taken him to the control booth. There, he would have been shielded better, and have something to work on to take his mind of DeeDee. That way, he can slowly get use and over the one thing that causes him pain, and still be there to support Blossom.
You're also making her dumber that she is. Olga isn't stupid, but crafty in a way Mandy has appreciated and caring in a way to be friends with DeeDee. Should wouldn't jump onto the revenge train just like that.
madmonkey wrote:she could be an alternate love interest
It would never work. Olga's main interest in life is dancing, and we all saw how Dexter reacted to dancing. She's also should no romantic interest in Dexter.
Fuck it. I'll just re-post an argument I already gave on this:
Blood Lord wrote:hahahah. It worked, I was really thinking that this section was barren, but it actually worked.
Hello, sweet food.MQuinny1234 wrote:she probably had very little information on Mandarks schemes in the first place so let's assume that she didn't know he'd kidnapped Blossom and was kinda evil... We know she at least knew where he lived.
That's an interesting statement. One that I think I can answer in a different way.
We know Dexter was told where Mandark's base was at from here. However, Mandark's base and lab have always been located around his house. It is possible that the base Mandark went to during the PpGD fight was either a new base, a back up, or that events between Dexter's Lab and PpGD forced him to relocate his base again. We could go on and on for quite some time about the relativity of Mandark's base and the one behind his house. The main point of it is that yes, Olga knew were it was at, but there might also be the possibility that she didn't know that he was there.
After DeeDee's death, we all know that Mandark went off the deep end, and ended up in an Insane Asylum. Unless Dr X kept it a secert, Mandark's family would have learned that he had escaped. Olga might have checked that base (assuming that it was already built) for him, but he was a Black Eden helping the Dark Star Council. During this time, we know that Mandark did not contact his family.
Many things can be assumed from this point in time. But the standard thing thought could have been that he lost his mind, and was wandering around. But it also looked like that around the time that Dexter found Mandark in front of DeeDee's grave, that Mandark could have ran away from his family.Gato wrote:In my opinion, after the death of Dee Dee, Mandark needed someone to talk to. His parents, whom he wants nothing more than to sever all ties with, I don't think he'd turn to. But his sister, who, like him feels out of place with their parents and their flower child ways.
A possibility, but we don't know much of their relationship after DeeDee died. We do know that it was a bully relationship with Olga on top, but not if it changed in anyway.
Honestly, I don't think he talked to Olga. He "shut down" after her death.
As I said above, he was sent to a mental facility. That could have been an issue by his own parents, because I seriously don't think he had the will, or the mental capacity after that moment to make his own decisions.
Assumptions are a dangerous thing that humanity has a tendency to act upon. They are useful for insight, and gauge a few things. Some assumptions are made entirely correct because we know from a previous example that the same thing happened, but with people it can be very hard unless you know them.
Olga isn't stupid. I don't think she would assume that Dexter killed Mandark. Even if your version, MQuinny, was true. She is suffering from a fate that Mandark or Dexter probably isn't strong enough to live through, although they were all second hand experiences. Her good friend was killed by accident by her brother. I'm sure she would have figured that out from Mandark, a recording from one of the Jackbots, or looking at the evidence. DeeDee is dead and her brother goes psychotic, she knows about the rivalry, and that Dexter is DeeDee's brother. Not that hard to piece it together. Now he brother killed himself, someone that understood her and was going through the same thing. Someone she probably cared about in a similar fasion that Dexter did to DeeDee. Olga has lost a friend and a brother, why would she strive to create more pain?
I think that Olga knew there was a base in that location, and saw the explosion or smoke. Mandark's original lab might have still been remaining, or that in good enough condition to report that a secondary base had been destroyed. So she goes out to investigate, finds smoking ruins, and Mandark's glasses. Would murder be a quick thing to assume? Yes. Of course it would be, and then the next step would be a typical form of vengeance against the one who robed you of your loved one.
But Olga also knew of Mandark's mental status, love for DeeDee, and could also have figured out that he killed himself, either on purpose or by accident. I believe she is fully capable of deducting this if she figured out that he accidentally killed DeeDee. Now she could also have figured out that Blossom and Dexter were there if they showed up to school the next day all bandaged up. Dexter doesn't seem like someone who would take too much interest in the school gossip, but Olga doesn't strike me as the one who would limit her surroundings.
I think she would have been grateful for Dexter's and the PpG actions that night, and understandable. I don't think that she will seek vengeance because of three reasons. First, she has enough pain to deal with, why would she create more? There is a lot of effort to harm someone, and that time can be better placed else where. Second, Mandark was suffering and she knew that, and now he no loner has to suffer... well, he probably went to hell, but that isn't the point. Third, what would be the point? It would create closer, it wouldn't bring him back.
So what is she trying to do to Dexter now?
Could she be sinister enough to actually be comforting him and possibly the girls? She knows DeeDee's relations, so perhaps by pulling him off stage and sending him to be a repairman for the stage crew, that three things could happen. She is directing his attention from seeing dancing, something that must and does terribly pain him, to something that comforts him. Dexter can also remain in a position to be supportive of Blossom, and/or Bubbles while they join the dance group. At the same time, she could also be helping him get over his grief. In psychology, there is a method to help someone get over their fears by locking them in a room full of it, and there is a similar procedure to gradually introduce the fear-causing-agent. You can also reverse this to rid someone of their addiction, or grief.
Is it so hard to believe that someone might not want to cause pain, but help others over their own, and in the end their own pain?
Are you familiar with the saying "Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts." ? It's said by a Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, creator of Sherlock Holmes, and was featured in the new Sherlock Holmes movie.
I believe this is what you are doing. But I do not hold myself clear of it as well. Along time ago, when GT was still updating, I proposed a radical theory based off of this page using this one as its primary support. My idea was known as the "Feedback Theory". Basically, Mimi had control over Minnie and the kiss broke that hold, and also leaked back to Mimi. This feedback contained feelings that my beloved little demon had never experienced; love. Thus showing her a different world and a possibility of being different and better than she was. And also the idea that she and Jr would hook up. The extent of the feedback depended on the type of control and how much power was behind it.
You should easily have seen the flaw within the Theory by now. My feelings for Mimi controlled by reasoning, thus blinding me to any other possibility. Although the Feedback Theory still remarkably stands unscratched, save for a few adjustments as time went on. No other theory has been proposed to challenge it, and remain standing. Nor has any other facts come out yet to dissolve it. That may change with AfterBirth, but I dunno.
My point is not to assume the obvious, nor let what you "think" or "want to happen in the story" take over. Don't jump the gun and quickly assume that its one thing, but that there could be many things going on, or something hiding that key. If you remain focused on one area, you will be blinded by the events around you.
Plus you have BeeAre writing the story, not Bleedman. BR has a unique trait were he never follows the cliche story motion unless he has to in order to fulfill a greater goal.