In case you missed it in the "Post your Art" thread, Dave is going to be making an Art Forum!! I think it's awesome, and I can't wait, but I wanted to start a topic to discuss it because the last time we brought it up there was some dissention. I thought it would be good to come to a concensus before the forum opened.

This is the thread I'm making reference to instead of reviving. Quotes are derived from there.

I'm going to quote things that have been brought up and agreed with by 2 or so people (in the above link and the current art thread), sometimes I'm quoting myself. But, y'know..., I'm awesome so self-quotes are ok.


Issue#1"Thread per artist" versus "Thread per piece" versus "sticky".
I personally still think that 1 thread per artist that gets revived by the artist with updates (NOT BY ANYONE ELSE EW) is the best solution. I still think stickies are stupid, because then we'll have many many pages of stickies. I also think that thraed per artist > thread per piece because we'll have fewer topics to follow/keep track of. You draw 5 things in a day, and 5 things tomorrow... you get the idea of how many threads that is now.

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Issue#2"What is Art" and "What can be Posted"





I say all forms of art are welcome, just put whatever you create to update your 'art' thread

There is also an issue brought up in the Post your Art thread about posting fanart and other people's art. I think it's a good idea to have a "Bleedman fanart" and "Snafu fanart" thread, but I would like to move AGAINST posting other people's art, or limiting it to one thread only. Posting someone else's art can cause confusion as to what is and is not yours and could get you into trouble. Also, fanart of non-bleedman, non-Snafu stuff should go in your personal thread imo.


Issue#3"Desired Features"



^^^ AWESOME idea, I would also like to see an advanced crits thread, a "how to draw" thread and other themy and challenge threads.

Anyway:: Comments, Suggestions??

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I like what you have compiled so far Spike, Cant really find anythign to disagree with even. damn.


One question for ponders sake:

Stuff that usually would have to be linked in the art thread, and put with a warning. Basically anything not work dafe. Same rules? Or would people just assume nobody at work or school would go in the art forum at that risk?

Im not talking about people posting porn, but artistic nudity and such.

I've been thinking about that myself.

I would say that the rules for all of Snafu go for the art thread too.

No pornography/hentai. Artistic nudity and voluptuous babes ok, but MUST be put under a link with a NSFW tag. Also, pieces that are bigger than the screen should be scaled and linked.

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<3 what Cole wrote... XD

At any rate, I'm hesitant about the "thread per artist" idea... That's quite a few threads to run through, as opposed to one nice thread to go for your art fix.

Then again, it could work out rather nicely if there turns out to be quite a few writer/musician/poets/inserteverythingelsehere types on the forums...

I'm harshly opposed to Thread Per Creation. IcyBrian's has that, and it's meh, at best. So much stuff to go through, just so that you don't miss much/anything.... r4wr.

Aaaaaaanywhooo...... poof I go now, hope to see what others think when I get back.

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What like a pr0n thread? If you put it behind a link and just say "NSFW" I don't see how there could be a problem. But I could suggest some guidelines if you want...

IOZ, CGTalk and a few other art boards have thread-per-artist and it works out quite well. It'd work kind of the way that Cole's "advice" thread worked. One of my boards is a trade board, so it *has* to be "thread per piece". Even though the trades run on monthly timecycles, pieces get lost FAST.

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Like one thread meant for NSFW stuff?


Or a sub-forum?

You silly people are overthinking this. There's gonna be a rules page fifty pages long that none of the newcomers will read, and you'll have broken rules every day.

So a person makes their own thread for their stuff, and they post in it whenever they have new stuff to show. This process floats their topic to the top, and the people see that there is a grand possibility of new art being in said thread. People reply and remain holding the thread skyward, so the chattiest threads get the most exposure, then the people who get no reviews complain and bump their topics incessantly. It's really quite simple!

A few stickied threads could be implemented like for Snafu/Bleedman specific fanart. But the Bleedman fanart topic won't need to be stickied. :P

If there was a way to make it so that there was a checkbox available to the thread starter ONLY, indicating when new art has been added, (then and only then would the topic be bumped) that would be totally awesome.

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I motion AGAINST further subforums. (Under 'Art')

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YES Flux!!

But I don't think there is such an option.

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Mwahahahah YET!

*Dances*

...Oh wait It might be impossible to do that. UNLESS SOMEONE KNOWS HOW TO?

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Cuz I don't.

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Seems complex.

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But they could put (new art 6/3) as an edited title when they revive it.

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Zat eez true... Though I wanted to find a way to make it so commenters couldn't bump topics, so there's always a proper order to who's art is the latest. Let's go bug Commie about it! He can do ANYTHING!

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He OWES us.

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What's wrong with commenters bumping topics? We could just be harsher with bans for necrothreaders

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Dave: I'm rageing lesbian trapped in a man's body.
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Yeah it really works either way. Like perhaps when the checkbox is used, it could tack on the date of most recent update in a variable spot on the end of the topic title?

So it would be "ART THREAD TITLE (UPDATED: 6/03)"

COMMIE CAN DO IT! YAAAY! LETS ALL ASSUME, EVERYONE! ASSUMPTION IS FUN!

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I still say that just putting the date in the title of your own damn topic is enough XD And commenters keep the popular art popular.

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Dave: I'm rageing lesbian trapped in a man's body.
Sucros: You can't learn to cook without learning a little french, you can't discuss softcore gay porn without learning a little japanese.

I like the idea of forcing Commie to make a semiautomatic system better. But haha, silly me I didn't even think about the fact that we could just change our own topic titles :P

BUT IM SOO LAAAZY! I remember updating my old webcomic with this shitty piecemeal PHP script that lifeofwily used... ANd In order to make newsposts work, I'd have to upload separate shit, and then the dropdown navigation menu I'd have to update individually also. And I was always manually fucking with shit in the index file. It was a pain.

I know this is nowhere near that complex. I'm just SOOO LAAAZY! XD

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LAZY MC LAZYPANTS!!

I'm lazy too, but I think you'd do it if it meant getting you more attention

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I say we enslave chimps to do it for us.

I would say its a most interesting Idea....
at least then it will become a lot more organized, than its now, with all the brillaint (and less brilliant) drawings being piled up in one thread...

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Yeah, I find that piling art up in various "category" threads causes some people to be overlooked.

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If there's a tread per artist, I think only the artist should be able to post in that thread. Otherwise, new stuff should just be it's own thread, thus old art dies out as new is submitted, just like the threads here.

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Then they cant get commentary tho.

Why can't people comment on an artist's thread? I'm feeling some kind of conceptual divide here, either there's something I'm not getting or something others aren't getting...

Just like threads here... when an artist has a new piece, they will post it as a comment in their own thread. People will comment in reply, until there is nothing left to say. Then that thread will float down until there is new art in it again. If there's a good crit session in an artist's thread, then that's beneficial for everyone, why shouldn't it be at top?

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Dave: I'm rageing lesbian trapped in a man's body.
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So, Dave finally folded, eh?

Guess so I'm so excited!!! BWEEEE!!!

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*squeal*