Krest wrote:I was suggesting mixing the two - make an illustration which compliments other things (or has symbolism, etc) yet also expresses itself in a unique way - making it fine art. I hope that makes sense...
This is what Candi has to do in that webcomic I linked, which is why I suggested it.
ari-6 wrote:I see it the other way entirely. Take your favourite drawing from your favourite mangaka, place it alongside Laudine's work, then ask a general member of the public (who probably has no art related knowledge what so ever) and ask them which they think is best, which shows more talent, which artist is best and 99/100 they will choose the visually impressive scenic piece. I do however agree with your second statement. The image I linked when we were talking about colouring, the artist who created that was trained a a fine artist before moving on to manga and I think it really shows in his work. I would like to achieve that level one day.
How do you describe illustration and fine art, then?
I'm just trying to show that a manga can be entirely riddled with fine art - it can have visually impressive scenic pieces throughout the entire thing. The mangaka, after all, is telling a story - while the artwork compliments the story he has in mind, the artwork also can BE the story he has in mind. Many people draw a line between the two - but I believe, if an artist denies that fine line, then it won't exist and their works can become truly blended.
So, would you then not call video games art, or movies art? Abridged series use programs to visually express themselves, just like the other two.
You could argue that movies and abridged series are different because the people in movies act. But...so do those in abridged series. Both movies and abridged series have people that act through the characters
. If you say that it isn't art because it's a rendition of an original piece, then no theatrical versions of Hamlet can be considered art.
Yet, abridged series are also literature. Like manga series, they mix words and visuals. It doesn't matter if the words are in text or spoken out loud, literature is expression through words.