Thy Obsessive Freak wrote:Luckily I met Stooie74 sometime after, so do have an IRL art friend in person to talk about art now, though she still doesn't criticize stuff even if you threaten to hit her with a chair (Actually I hit her with a chair anyways)
Thy Obsessive Freak wrote:Also posting to let out the terrible news I might not be around for a while. My cancer symptoms come back at the end of each cycle, most especially my leg swells and has spasms of intense pain that only last around roughly 2-5minutes, but last night (Yeah, this wakes me up every night, this was the worse though). I woke up in incredible pain and this has started in just two weeks which is a lot sooner than when they normally come back. I've been waiting for an MIR scan for five weeks now to get answers to why this keeps happening, but my Ma's holding onto hope she can check me into the hospital for tonight, that way it should shove me up the queue to actually get me an MIR scan tomorrow.
Thy Obsessive Freak wrote:Artist block can always be found and has always been a drag. Most I can see right now is a goal. One reason I think Artist block isn't a big deal to me is because I'm an ambitious artist, I want to be on Bleedman's level, hence I'm always looking for a way to improve (Unless that way to improve is boring, than leave me out, well arts still meant to be fun). I look for where I want to improve. Right now it's shoulder joints, I realized I'm actually terrible at shoulders. I also look for tutorials or artist games as well as challenges. As I recalled, didn't you do requests Ari-6? Obligation helps to motivate. You also tried do a comic that you were really motivated in drawing. I know you did one, but that could be just said that was just not a very fun enough story for you to do (At least I'd argue that anyways, or at least you weren't excited enough to tell the story), the reason I started doing the Story of Mizuka was because I was too lazy to plug up my computer to do digital art each time, hence I motivated myself by starting a comic that has a story that I really want to tell.
Sorry, I'm not good at criticism, I usually point out the good things when it comes to art. When I do have to criticise I just say stuff like 'you need more practice with anatomy' or backgrounds or anything like that, I'm not someone to go into much detail. And I'm already too critical of my own art so I don't know if I should be one to give critiques or advice to others when I don't have much confidence.
stooie74 wrote:And for the record, this is how it pretty much goes down when I don't agree with Obsessive Freak.
stooie74 wrote:On the topic of Comic sans. I still don't quite understand why comic sans is so hated. I know Freak just explained but it still doesn't make sense to me. As long as people can read it does it matter? I understand if people use it in title or sound effects THEN it would be considered a bad idea. Titles and such should have a somewhat fancy, eye catching or dramatic font. But texts in speech bubbles....I don't really see the problem. I know a lot say that it is overused in that area but I wouldn't dub that as artists being lazy or sloppy. Only when its wrongly used theres a problem, like what I said about titles and stuff but I think all fonts can be used wrongly, not just comic sans. But I really don't think this font deserves all this hate. Its an easy and simple font to read.
I use Comic sans in my comic, but of course thats just something I'm doing for fun so I don't think it should be taken so seriously. I'm not quite as ambitious as Freak, I'm not really trying to succeed at anything but I do put effort into my work. If people want to dub me as lazy just for the font I use so be it.
ari-6 wrote:Hmmm. I am struggling to remember which comic you were talking about. I have made a couple in the past but none that I was really excited about. Also I heard that "obligation" thing just yesterday when I read it on a "How not to be lazy" article. I used to be very ambitious but that has changed in the past year to the point where I wouldn't care if I never drew again except for the fact that I have no other skills. I think the problem is that I have so many obligations that I just get overwhelmed and don't feel like doing any of them. So I am trying to remind my self that drawing used to be fun by drawing anything I want whenever I have the chance.
The problem for you is that practice is often boring. I can understand your thinking "If it isn't fun then there is no point in doing it" Unfortunately I don't have the choice to think that way. For me it's more like "Even if it's not fun, even if it's never fun again, I still have to do it".
ari-6 wrote:About the comic sans thing. If you are not aiming to be professional and just do it for fun like Stooie then there really isn't a problem but when you start learning about it, comic sans really is a death trap. I always thought it looked childish but I think the reason it is lazy is because people just see "Comic" and think "Yep, that's perfect" without really thinking what font suits their art style. In class they made us make are own fonts, mine looks like crap.
ari-6 wrote:In class they taught us some trick for coming up with new ideas but I am really bad at it, at the end of the process I can't tell any more if what I am looking at is good or not. Basically you write down the subject, then you write down whatever words you can think of that are associated with that subject that come to mind. Then you write down things associated with those things. Then you pick three things from that list and string those into an idea, or something. I can't remember very well how it goes, I was always crap at it.
sevensoybeanz wrote:It's hard to make something "original" nowadays because everything has been done. It's all about the execution now.
If you come up with an idea without using a creative process then that idea is predictable and uninteresting and you must not use it. The line of thinking is that ideas may not come to you but if you have a creative process then you can consistently generate ideas that have not been done before.
It sounds like you are a much smarter person than I. Do you mind if I ask what kind of qualifications are required for a librarian? It sounds strangely peacefulGrimlyLoveGunner wrote:Art, writing and my Comic-making are all hobbies, I'd die before I became a professional artist, the pressure and stress would kill me. XD
Yes, I do. That is pretty much what we did. Had an idea already and try to make it fit the grid. But both of my tutors have been dealing with our kind for over a decade. They know how we think, you really can't fool them and they can tell when you are not following something.GrimlyLoveGunner wrote:So your problem Ari is coming up with creative ideas? Hn, one thing I can suggest it to come up with something that's really interesting to you. But then look at it objectively, see all the flaws you or your tutors might view as not creative/good/relevant enough. Then build new versions of those parts, and in the process, turn the original idea into something completely different, that relates only secretly to the original.... Uhhh... Do you get my point? XD
GrimlyLoveGunner wrote:But I guess I just need to rough-sketch the entire scene, character and background before I start really drawing. Ack, I hope it's not time-comsuming. XD Anyone have any ideas?
But that is what made it sound so wonderful. Do you need an A-level in English to get a library degree? I was thinking if I tried hard enough I could probably get that degree but not if it required A-level english. I already infodumped everything from Highschool english so it would just be too hard.GrimlyLoveGunner wrote: Less stressful then some other jobs, but it's not just sitting behind a desk speaking quietly all day. XD
GrimlyLoveGunner wrote:Anyway- yeah, I generally do rough drafts on a separate paper for serious comic-writing. But it's really just background type and stick figures in poses. I should get used to drafting more detailed placements actually on what I'm drawing on. Though placing perspective points can be a problem, since I draw on my lap on a makeshift art board. (A decorative coffee table with no legs) So there isn't much room to accurately measure the placement of some things. >.<
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