What now?

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Also, first.

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Oh God... no more, please!

Why couldn't they... I don't know, like, instead of this page, another page with the fight already over, the whole room is a mess, and Her is finally defeated. I'm already tired of so many fights, cameos and horrible dialogue.

If anyone needs a cheap writer, I'm available.

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oh man, hidden laser emplacements! or maybe beacons? for summoning some-kind of flame, a cleansing flame perhaps? but then it's the underworld, everything is tainted somehow physically and mentally.

If you dont like the comic then dont read it!!!!

Didn't expect Pain to get involved at all. And I'm wondering what those pentagram-beacons are for. Maybe a teleporter, or a trap?

Wait. DI-DID PAIN JUST SLASH THAT THING STRAIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE, FOOD AND.ALL?! :U

I'm pointing OBVIOUS flaws in the comic. You know, those who want an actual story.

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hey could you be more specific as to which parts of each comic are the worst offenders? i would like some actually useful criticism.

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So fucking tired, I'll post the strengths and weaknesses of each Bleedman comic tomorrow or during the weekend, we'll see. Do you want me to include PPGD?

I'm asking this because I already explained what I thought were the main weaknesses in this second saga, but still posted that the last 5 pages were pretty good.. Also, should I post it in here, or via PM?

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This is just my opinion, but I think the key reason why the comics are suffering is poor pacing.

Complete, the pages are interesting to read and are almost perfect with no waiting for each new page. However, it does feel draggy simply because of the slow releases. Let's say it's like releasing a page of George Orwell's classic 1984
once a week. The whole novel is excellent, but you will gradually get tired of waiting for each new page of a thousand-page novel.

I don't think there's anything we can do about releases however if Bleedman is not under professional obligation to do this. This is the likely scenario why the comics are so slow to release; it's more like something he does as a hobby I guess.

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Okay, i got to ask, what is with all the whining over the story pacing? Yes i agree the UPDATE schedule is a bit tedious, but it's not like your life will end if you have to wait a week or two for the next page in the saga. But, the PACING of the story itself is fine. Now i'd be pissed if the story just halted and went for twenty pages talking about stuff that has nothing to do with the main arc, but the comic so far has been steadily steaming ahead and telling the story that it set out to tell in this saga.

You have to understand where the focus is, in this arc it's on Mimi. The other characters are there for framing and adding subtle parts of the story, but the arc isn't about them. Thus far the team on this comic has performed excellently in keeping the story moving and telling Mimi's story. We're getting a backstory for Mimi (the focus of this arc), we got more info on the state of the world in this universe and even a set up for future arcs.

There definitely is no problem with the pacing. If that were the case, then right in the middle of the Mimi flashback portion of this arc we would've had a flashback for Mandy to explain what happened in the past leading up to that point of the story. Now that would've been an unnecessary and contrived plot point. So i really don't understand why there even is a complaint about the story pacing.

Bleed...why you copy and paste skeleton figures? *derp*

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Don't mind me, I'm just trying to address Teran's problem over there. I myself have no problems with the pacing although I think it's a good reason why people like him are starting to get irritated. What's your take?

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About Pain's attack...

You could say he wanted the fridge for half off.

Just want to put this here. If they are gonna do a fight scene which they know would take a couple of pages, they should post it in a back-to-back post so that the fight would go faster then if the next pages are for dialogues, then 1 page per week will do.

It's like this: Fight Scene(takes a couple of pages) 2 pages per week. Dialogue Scene, 1 page per week.

Does anyone agree with me?

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http://www.snafu-comics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=50149

^ Good idea, if we were talking a ratio of dedicated artist to dedicated writing staff. Correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't Bleedman do all the artwork for PPGD, Grim Tales, and Sugar Bits, but each of those comics have a different writing staff. So he's split between drawing for three different writing staffs and stories. Not to mention each team probably has a different creative process, so for every comic update, i'd assume there are at least three to five rejected versions. All these factors effect speed, you also have to factor in real life factors to the equation.
Look at what happened to Fred Gallagher and Megatokyo. For the past couple of years that comic has barely moved through the new chapter due to real world events. He has his job, he became a parent and other issues, all these issues can effect update speed. Anyhow, if you really want fast update speed, at the very least you need to get individual art teams for each comic so you can reduce lag between writer schedule and artist schedule. In other words, they first need to clean up and streamline the process due to the difference in the ratio.

now the disclaimer, this is all just my personal opinion based on my knowledge of these comics staffing so take it for what it's worth, there is a high probability of inaccuracy.

Especially this. If you've been keeping up with each of the writers' current situations you should know that any delayed updates are (quite understandably) more justified through them than they are through Bleedman. If you haven't been keeping up with their current situations just take my word for it.
As it is, though, the updates seem to be turning out at a fair enough pace that I don't mind.

Mimi uses Fridge toss. It doesn't effect the foe's Lord Pain.

Old joke is old, I know.
Anyway, the petagram could be a type of electrified energy field.

@Duke of MaskS
I don't particularly I agree that the pacing should speed up during fights though we must consider the time it takes to make a comic page of this quality.
I personally don't know how the team goes about making this comic, whether they make all pages and then post or post after each page completion. Regardless, I don't think they would want to post more pages then they can make.

@strider0075
You are a very logical individual. Kudos.

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Fair enough. Just saying what I think can be beneficial to all.

So about the comic, I would love to have Pain's sword and that is certainly an electrical field...

And to put another thing. Yes it would be great if comics have different artists too but it will not happen for a reason that Bleedman is the only person who draws the three and as far as I know now one has the same drawing style so if they do(which will not) split it to different writers, well the comics will have different drawing styles.

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Delia Surridge: You've come to kill me, haven't you?
V: Yes.
Delia Surridge: Thank God.

Oh and please read my first literature post. Feel free to bash me and whatnot...
http://www.snafu-comics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=50149

Even if it isn't Mimi's stuck. Mimi is for all intentents and purposes, a demon (half demon by birth, probably nearly full demon in practice). Notice that that that is a circled pentagram. That means it's not just a pentagram it's a pentacle. And what is a pentacle used for? To summon demons yes, but more importantyl to bind them. From a classical magical perspective, as long as that symbol is unbroken, mimi literally can't leave it, or for that matter, use any powers she might have. She's basically been neutralized. It may be a little odd that Mandy happens to have beacons up to make one already in place. On the other hand given she lives in the underworld, it's a pretty safe bet that she would have something like this, since pretty much any entitey that could break into her vault would have to have supernatural powers. In fact, every attack she and Lord pain have made so far may have been simply to drive Mimi onto the exact spot she is standing on, so they could spring the trap.

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Quiet a plausible theory indeed.

Adding to your idea, the "pentacle field" may well use a type of magic-science.
I say this because Mandy is using those beacons to cast the field.
Assuming the field has magical properties of course.

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I'm a little worried about the purge button as it can mean two things.

One, point blank oblivion, in which case it clearly won't work.
Two, purging of any magic or the like, or anything Mimi could use to defend herself with or something, which could happen.

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Very well put, you neatly summed up what I was going to say. So I'll just geek out instead, ........LOVING THE MAGITECH PENTAGRAM!

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"I'm not evil, I'm just morally alternate."

Well, that's mainly because if you've got absolutely no idea how something works, an answer as vague as magic or science works pretty well. Especially magic because science implies there is a train of thought behind it which is incredibly long and intelligent, whilst magic is just magic and not quite as intimidating.

Maybe.

I'm rambling here.

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