Took ya a while to reply, eh? I like to think that it took you this long because you were constantly walking, thinking of great ideas for PPGD, but then I remembered how much you love to post in Spam or receive credit for writing this, and all my hopes were shattered. Anyways, let's proceed.
BeeAre wrote:it's true that a great deal of the story is diminished at the beginning, and so most of my effort has been trying to sort out that inconsistency, hence why you feel it's slow.
All this stuff can't be undone, it will never go away, it will haunt my dreams forever. It took you guys 70 pages to finally get into this battle, and this battle has lasted for 39 pages. So we have 109 in total. I beg to ask, did you write those 70 pages where nothing happened? Oh wait, my bad, a lot of stuff happened in those 70 pages, but was it relevant to the plot? It just seems like random fanart and lame jokes (don't worry, I'll get into that in a moment). So in those 70 pages we get to meet Olga for no apparent reason. I'm not even kidding when I say that you could replace Olga with ANY CHARACTER, and it wouldn't matter because at this point her character is unimportant. It was fun when we all thought that she was evil and wanted to kill Dexter for what happened to Mandark, but it seems that she is completely unrelated to the bad guys, so why have her in the story? For there to be a love triangle you say? When did that happen?!? Will it happen in the future? Maybe, but who cares, this battle will never end as it's already ruined thanks to the fact that we are focusing in every single super hero in the convention.
Oh, but I'm not done with those 70 pages of nothing. We also had Buttercup looking for a talent after she beat the living shit out of everyone in Jack's class. So again, we have a bunch of painful pages with Buttercup dressed as a scientist, then as a chef, she discovers this new talent she has for cooking, but in the end it's just something trivial and truly a waste of time. Will her cooking abilities save the world? Perhaps one of the pages I hated the most is when she is trying to focus in order to fight, and suddenly says "fuck it", and kicks that robot thing. I hate that page, and at the same time like it, because it reveals that all her training, cooking and stuff has been a waste of time, there was no development in her character at all.
Bell appears to be sad because she has no friends, then fucking Naga appears because we obviously need a Mary Sue in the story, she tries to kill him with little to no effect, activates a giant clock that, until now, we have no idea of it's effect. Then we had that trip to the beach for no apparent reason. That collection of flashbacks from Mandy and Bubbles that added nothing to the plot, XJ9 lame introduction, and we finally arrived to this convention.
To this day I still have no idea who Professor X is, what are the villains doing in that convention, what do they want, their motivation overall, the purpose of Naga and Olga in the story, etc. It doesn't helps that the cheerful characters we had in the first saga are now fucking boring and annoying because they don't do a thing.
BeeAre wrote:i really can't get your ire for letting the comic make jokes if it's going to be held down to the pace i've set for it in order to correct what i see as mistakes in the first three years of the comic's inception (before i joined the team).
I have nothing against the jokes. For example, that Omelette du Fromage joke you made in the last page was pretty clever, you stole a smile out of my face because, as a Dexter fan, remembered that episode. But it also worked because the joke wasn't the main focus of the page, it came out as something trivial. The purpose of the page was for Dexter to explain what the hell is going on, and to look for the "muscle" in order to proceed, that joke came as something trivial. But what happens when the joke is the main focus of the page? When the only purpose of making the page is for a lame joke to be made? Like those fucking glasses for both Buttercup and Blossom, or when that mini-gun caught Bell's attention? Oh, who could forget Courage trying to get the attention from the audience? Did you actually thought that would be funny? Jokes and cameos should be treated like something trivial, because in the end, the plot doesn't centers around them. Oh yeah, I mentioned "cameos" before time. That's another fucking problem I have with this comic now, sometimes the cameos are the main focus of the page, and it's a big problem because we can't advance. Hell, I found more charm in Billy and Ed making that mountain of food than in Mandy talking bullshit because SHE WAS BORING! Can you see the essential flaw in here?
And please do elaborate what you thought were the flaws in the first saga. I'm actually very curious about it! DO SHARE!
BeeAre wrote:i'm not going to proceed any faster, because faster is what led to the mistakes in the first place--Blossom just going "OH DEXTER'S EYES ARE SO BEAUTIFUL" is pretty shitty writing, dude.
Hmmm, oh yeah, I remember that page. Ok, so Bleedman obviously needs someone who writes better dialogues between the characters. Is that the only flaw you found in the first saga?
And I do agree that rushing a comic is not the right direction, I mean, the second saga of Grim Tales was completely ruined because it all went so fast, in the end we had a pretty unsatisfactory ending. But damn, PPGD is no better thanks to the fact that most of the story so far has been irrelevant and boring as fuck. Sure, drooling idiots who only watch the comic for the cameos will be satisfied, I guess, but there's also a plot.
BeeAre wrote:And you keep seeming incredulous even though I explain this every time you bring it up, with not much but a "YEA? I STILL DON'T LIKE IT" each time as your criticism.
Well I'll be damned, when have I written "YEA? I STILL DON'T LIKE IT"? Wait, that's how you've summarized all my posts? I'm so disappointed BR, very, very disappointed in you. I actually feel tempted to delete all the stuff I have written and reply at you the exact same way you wrote it, because that's all you take from my posts. It would be fair for you to call me a moron if my post only included that, but I'm fucking taking my time in order to carefully explain to you why PPGD is NOT WORKING.
And I've said in the past that these last three pages of PPGD are actually good. I like them because I can't see the flaws I've mentioned in the past. If I constantly looked for something to hate, that would make me a hypocrite. By the way, how is Seir?
BeeAre wrote:I'm beginning to think you're not really wanting to discuss and instead just want to vent.
Read above. If anything, you are always pulling an "out of jail" card out of your ass to avoid discussing with me.
"Ha, you said poor writing, ha, what a loser". Were you high that day?
Sorry, you're not my type.
Here, you might learn a thing or two
BeeAre wrote:But, hey, I'd love to be completely wrong about this.
You can start to prove me wrong by engaging me with the answer to this question:
How do you relate to a character?