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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby ShadowGT » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:25 pm

Duke of MaskS wrote:Just wanna put this out of my head but, if Hoss is indeed is the traitor. Well, he's pretty good at it and suggesting he got this far, he's pretty damn awesome to stay in spy mode that long don't you think?


Hoss being the traitor?, its possible.

MQuinny1234 wrote:One of them is a caged beast of some kind, the other....I dunno, a beholder?


I think one is the picture of jeff soul in the container where Him have it and the other just an ugly picture drawn by Mimi
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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby Nell-X » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:26 pm

MQuinny1234 wrote:One of them is a caged beast of some kind, the other....I dunno, a beholder?


That's Jeff I believe, I'm concerned with the two items above the Gauntlet.
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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby ShadowGT » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:39 pm

Nell-X wrote:I was skimming through older pages, and I took a closer look at the map Mimi was holding. What are the two items above the Gauntlet in the top-left corner of the map. They obviously seem to be significant.

Page 167: Fascinating Phalanges
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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby Silver Mane » Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:07 pm

Nell-X wrote:I was skimming through older pages, and I took a closer look at the map Mimi was holding. What are the two items above the Gauntlet in the top-left corner of the map. They obviously seem to be significant.

Page 167: Fascinating Phalanges
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Jeff in the cage and that's Him with poop on his head. Mimi drawing out her frustration, illustrating her papa is a poopy head....
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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby Biostar » Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:18 pm

None of them important it seems.
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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby Nell-X » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:45 pm

Hmm, now since that is cleared up, back to guessing who the traitor is...
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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby Silver Mane » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:58 pm

Right now Hoss and Raven are just staring at each other......(or looks like.) :unsure:

Also....

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Sad to say HIM isn't Lucifer really, maybe HIM is one of the sons of Lucifer....?....I Doubt it though... :|
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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby Wallow Blacklake » Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:51 pm

I believe Raven and Hoss are both looking at Him.
Also, we have to ask that, if Hoss is the traitor, how would he go abought helping Him to Destroy everyone.
He is not the sharpest penny in the role so I believe he would use more violent tactics.
Hoss is far too weak for Blossom (Bullets bounce off her) so its safe to assume he would be fighting Raven while Him fights Blossom.
If that were to happen, I woud bank on Raven to win (and possibly kill Hoss) only to have Him suprize and kill her to.

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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby gamefan » Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:18 pm

I vote for the most easy one:

Raven go and do some sort of super special attack, but fail and HImm kill her. Then Hoss in rage mode do same and be killed as well. Then a long chat what might take like between 5-10 pages between Blossom and Him.

Or something like that. :P
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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby strider0075 » Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:21 pm

Wallow Blacklake wrote:I believe Raven and Hoss are both looking at Him.
Also, we have to ask that, if Hoss is the traitor, how would he go abought helping Him to Destroy everyone.
He is not the sharpest penny in the role so I believe he would use more violent tactics.
Hoss is far too weak for Blossom (Bullets bounce off her) so its safe to assume he would be fighting Raven while Him fights Blossom.
If that were to happen, I woud bank on Raven to win (and possibly kill Hoss) only to have Him suprize and kill her to.

Any other theories?


well, actually hoss would be a good distraction, and he's easy to trick. also raven is a team mate, if hoss is the traitor and he goes after raven while him deals with blossom, raven would have difficulty going full power against hoss due to the fact he's a team mate. let's not forget that while he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed he is well prepared for any fight he has to handle, so undoubtably he would have a weapon/tool to deal with raven if he had to. although we now see he's alive, it could also be that he was revived by HIM and if HIM revived hoss he could've given hoss enough power to be a good fight for raven. there's also the backstab option, raven could be thinking he's going to attack HIM and focuses on her attack and doesn't notice that hoss's attack is aimed at her.

~edit~ dang it's hard to write when you're writing about HIM and another male, can you say grammatically incorrect speech.
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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby PP-Grim1013 » Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:36 pm

... I still think Olga is the traitor; an ex-friend of Mandy's and someone who held a grudge against Dexter and Blossom

EDIT: or perhaps, since PPGD and Grim Tales are not meant to be connected, it might've been Mandark himself if he never died in this storyline...
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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby Biostar » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:19 am

PP-Grim1013 wrote:... I still think Olga is the traitor; an ex-friend of Mandy's and someone who held a grudge against Dexter and Blossom

EDIT: or perhaps, since PPGD and Grim Tales are not meant to be connected, it might've been Mandark himself if he never died in this storyline...

Wouldn't that require him to be a hero to betray the other heroes?
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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby Duke of MaskS » Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:32 am

Silver Mane wrote:Right now Hoss and Raven are just staring at each other......(or looks like.) :unsure:

Also....

@Masks----he's not Lucifer, please read http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=26 =Billy And http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=111 =Minnie's soul is mine.
Sad to say HIM isn't Lucifer really, maybe HIM is one of the sons of Lucifer....?....I Doubt it though... :|


Oops, sorry about that. Forgot about that since it was only mentioned once throughout the entire comic...

And it doesn't mean that one will have to be smart, he could be following exact, accurate orders. But I'm still not buying it's him...
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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby MeteoraAngel » Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:07 am

Silver Mane wrote:Right now Hoss and Raven are just staring at each other......(or looks like.) :unsure:

Also....

@Masks----he's not Lucifer, please read http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=26 =Billy And http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=111 =Minnie's soul is mine.
Sad to say HIM isn't Lucifer really, maybe HIM is one of the sons of Lucifer....?....I Doubt it though... :|

Actuallly if you look it up the original creater of the PPG said him is the devil =o i was a bit obsessed with PPG growing up lol
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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby Lady Haru » Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:57 pm

MeteoraAngel wrote:
Silver Mane wrote:@Masks----he's not Lucifer, please read http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=26 =Billy And http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=111 =Minnie's soul is mine.
Sad to say HIM isn't Lucifer really, maybe HIM is one of the sons of Lucifer....?....I Doubt it though... :|

Actuallly if you look it up the original creater of the PPG said him is the devil =o i was a bit obsessed with PPG growing up lol

yes but this is not written by PPG's original creator, its up to the writer of PPGD (BeeAre) to say whose the devil in this universe, which was the guy on that page technically, not Him
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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby ShadowGT » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:04 pm

New page please!!!!
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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby PP-Grim1013 » Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:44 pm

http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=26

Just noticed in that page ^ ... the very last panel... that REALLY proves that PPGD and Grim Tales are NOT related, considering we just saw Irwin die of other causes than Mandy's... play time :unsure:
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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby Wallow Blacklake » Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:34 pm

PP-Grim1013 wrote:http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=26

Just noticed in that page ^ ... the very last panel... that REALLY proves that PPGD and Grim Tales are NOT related, considering we just saw Irwin die of other causes than Mandy's... play time :unsure:
- no one yell at me for repeating please. I know the stories aren't related... I just like pointing out moar facts lol


I believe this page implies that Irwin died before the events in WHAM. If not, Mandy would have tormented him up till HIM killed him.
This begs the question: Can Irwin really die?
He is 1/4 vampire, 1/4 werewolf, 1/4 mummy and 1/4 human, i.e two living parts and two undead ones.

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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby ShadowGT » Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:56 pm

i think irwin cant die, but he did it twice, maybe he have 4 lives, one for each part (vampire, werewolf, mummy and human), we go to see it rebirth in upcoming pages?, well see.
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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby Wallow Blacklake » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:00 am

Well, like I said, he is half living and half dead so it could go either way.
May only certain things can hurt him in certain ways e.g sunlight losses 75% of its power on him becuse he is only 1/4 vampire.

Also, we don't know the effect that that puppy/ baby bat/ mummy tranformation Him cast on Irwin would have. it could make him vulnerable to everything and then he could really die.

One last thing, its said that Mandy used Irwin till he died. If he died once before and came back, he would have to keep it a secret from Mandy or else she would surly continue to torture him.
Maybe http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=26 refers to Irwins death by Him's hands?
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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby Dresden » Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:04 pm

Irwin was used by Mandy until he died, yet we see him alive again. He could be the traitor, asking HIM for powers to get back at Mandy's friends (with her being immortal its the only way he can seek revenge), while posing as a hero.
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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby Mon-Kitsune » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:53 pm

Wallow Blacklake wrote:
He is 1/4 vampire, 1/4 werewolf, 1/4 mummy and 1/4 human, i.e two living parts and two undead ones.

Thoughts?


Actually, since a lot of werewolf mythology says that NOTHING except silver or fire can kill a werewolf, it may be closer to 1/4 mortal 3/4 immortal. And it tecnically really isn't even that, since it isn't actually 1:1:1:1. Irwin is 1/4 vampire (via Dracula) and 1/4 human, but he is 1/2 mummy (his mother is a mummy so that counts as 2/4 not 1 since Irwin's maternal grandmother is presumably mummy as well) he was then bitten by a werewolf which technically makes him 100% werewolf, on TOP of being 3/4 undead . All of the components are there, but God knows what the actual ratio is (this math is like what happened on the Tolkein website when someone asked what percentage elf Aragorn's children were.)
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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby 123Applefuzz » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:48 am

I still want to know what happened between Dexter and Blossom and I still wondering if Blossom is the traitor or not because she's the mother of HIM's child. :?
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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby Wallow Blacklake » Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:00 pm

Mon-Kitsune wrote:
Wallow Blacklake wrote:
He is 1/4 vampire, 1/4 werewolf, 1/4 mummy and 1/4 human, i.e two living parts and two undead ones.

Thoughts?


Actually, since a lot of werewolf mythology says that NOTHING except silver or fire can kill a werewolf, it may be closer to 1/4 mortal 3/4 immortal. And it tecnically really isn't even that, since it isn't actually 1:1:1:1. Irwin is 1/4 vampire (via Dracula) and 1/4 human, but he is 1/2 mummy (his mother is a mummy so that counts as 2/4 not 1 since Irwin's maternal grandmother is presumably mummy as well) he was then bitten by a werewolf which technically makes him 100% werewolf, on TOP of being 3/4 undead . All of the components are there, but God knows what the actual ratio is (this math is like what happened on the Tolkein website when someone asked what percentage elf Aragorn's children were.)


Excellent point, good sir. I hadn't considered the relationship between Irwins powers.As for a ratio, I DO have an equation in mind. I would say it's the following: Irwin = Werewolf x [(Vampire + Human) + (Mummy x 2)].
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Re: New Grim Tales - Doing the Best Possible (07/01/12)

Postby Twist3d » Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:36 pm

unfortunately something like genes aren't easily calculated.. check out the link below for some info .. there's a lot of guessing in this case. AND with the fact that were doing this on the supernatural level, it just bugs up the number real good... i really think the equation would be pages long and at least need a graph or two (if you assume (and should assume) that genes are randomly selected, and develop an equation for each selection to get the best ratio). but i dunno, im not a doctor, just a biology III student, lol.

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