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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Morpheus » Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:12 pm

I still can't believe he lied to her and then got mad at Bolin for telling her.
Kinda mad than Bolin was basically a background character, hopefully we get to see more of him in season 2.
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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Roughnecks » Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:20 pm

Meanwhile Bolin will be showing off Pabu's new tricks. xD

Bolin is my Favorite character but I really hope they make him a bigger contributor to the group in the season finale.
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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Mon-Kitsune » Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:23 pm

Morpheus wrote:He's probably too young to be that.
I think he's most likely Zuko's grandson.


Here's what I have worked out (and this is all I am saying on this subject, before I put my foot in my mouth again)

According to the Wiki Zuko is currently 87 or so. Iroh II appears to be in his 20-30's. If you assume him to be 35 (what I would say is the outside edge of how old someone could be and still look that young) Zuko would have had to have had him when he was 52. In terms of Zuko himself that is really no problem. The problem, if there is one, comes into play with Mai. When Zuko was 52, Mai would have been about 51 (the wiki says she is about 1 year younger than Zuko). It is of course perfectly possible for a woman to bear children when she is that old, but it is on the tail end of what is generally considered the fertile period (I looked it up and it seems the average for menopause is around the late 40's to early 50's) And since Iroh II is likely quite a bit younger than 35 (closer to 30 or even 25) Mai would have been even older, and even more likely to be past childbearing age. And there is no record (as far as I know) of Mai dying young and/or Zuko taking a second wife* (they would have mentioned by now if he had, I think) So "grandson" seems more likely.

* I say and/or because The Fire Nation has a lot of traits in common with Imperial China, and in Imperial China, it was perfectly legal and acceptable for those of sufficient wealth and status to have multiple wives. An emperor (which would be roughly the equvalent rank to Fire Lord) could have hundreds (not counting his concubines) I rather doubt polygamy is done in the Fire Nation, but it is not utterly impossible.
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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Techh » Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:15 pm

I think that Iroh is closer to 40 than he is 20, but that's just me. He could definitely be Zuko's grandson.

And I was just thinking the same thing about Asami, which makes me sad because I really like her.

Also, not happy with how Bolin's been portrayed. He should be just as important as Mako, because I like him better. ha.

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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Mon-Kitsune » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:35 pm

Techh wrote:I think that Iroh is closer to 40 than he is 20, but that's just me. He could definitely be Zuko's grandson.

And I was just thinking the same thing about Asami, which makes me sad because I really like her.

Also, not happy with how Bolin's been portrayed. He should be just as important as Mako, because I like him better. ha.

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The Japanese Imperial Family practiced polygamy as well.
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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Techh » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:19 pm

Yes, of course. Polygamy has been in practice in thousands of nations. It would be more impressive for a nation to not have practiced polygamy for its higher ups.

However, polygamy on a children's show? Believe it or not, Avatar is TVY7, which I equate (to make things easier on myself) to around pg. So no matter how close to the actual nationality different elements are following, it's going to be child appropriate, so that means no concubines, no more than one wife, no cheating, (most likely) no remarrying and nothing that insinuates anything other than a healthy, appropriate family defined by Nickelodeon.
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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Mon-Kitsune » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:12 pm

I did say "I doubt it", I only put it forward as a possible (albiet remote) possiblity to explain how Zuko might have a son who was only 20 or 30. And I agree with most of the list you made, except perhaps remarrying (they had Chuckie's Dad remarry on Rugrats, which is rather even lower, so I doubt nick would have much of a problem with that). Though the show sometimes suprises me in some of the cultural detail they can fit in. My jaw dropped when I saw the Avatar Kyoshi episode, and saw that Sokka's "detective hat" had wing panels on the side, like it should have had for a nominally Chinese culture.
Now that I think of it the only cartoon I saw I can think of that actually aceppted polygamy as a fact was Code Geass at that was 1. A Japanese Import and 2 Probably rated closer to PG-13. And even then, they didn't trumpet the fact .
I also now realize there would be an akward other part. As you pointed out, the Water Tribes borrow a lot from the Inuit, and in Inuit culture, the practice of polyandry (one wife, many husbands) is fairly well established (polygamy too, I think). They probably couldn't put one in without the other.
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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Naur » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:14 pm

I'll leave the theory casting to everyone else all I can say about that episode is nod in agreement with Milo's comment about Bolynn.......somewhere up in earthbender valhala her mom is smiling with approval. (though I hope Korra learns a way to restore bending before the end for the sake of poetic justice)
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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Grieffon » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:48 pm

Can Amon really remove bending though, or it is just some chi blocking that doesn't simply wear off gradually?
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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Roughnecks » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:03 pm

I don't think he would be going through all this trouble for it to wear off gradually...really don't want all the people you pissed of being able to attack you again and this time in greater numbers....
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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Grieffon » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:13 pm

No, I mean what Amon has been doing is similar to what happened to Aang. His chi got blocked by Azula's lightning so he couldn't enter the Avatar state. When a rock hit that same spot, his Chi got unblocked and he could do it again. Perhaps Amon is not actually removing people's bending, he's just blocking them in a way that can only be cancelled by hitting the same spot.
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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Teran » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:17 pm

Aang could still bend though.
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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Mir@k » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:35 am

Teran wrote:Aang could still bend though.

yeah, i'd say your theory was perfect if not because of this right here grieffon.
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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby BeeAre » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:40 am

On the polygamy discussion, keep in mind that the Earth King back in Aang-times canonically did have multiple wives as mentioned in the "expanded universe" stuff online, they just didn't really discuss it in the show.
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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Grieffon » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:52 am

Teran wrote:Aang could still bend though.

Azula intended to kill him, not blocking his chi. His chi getting block was just a coincidence, and the pressure point that got blocked was on his back, preventing him from using the Avatar State. Ty Lee could choose whether to completely paralyze a person or merely disable their bending, so I'd say different pressure points block different things. Here we see Amon touching people's forehead, which is a spot no chi blocker has struck before. It can be the most important pressure point to bending.
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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Biostar » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:16 am

Asami turning against the Krew because of romantic issues seems petty for her. She did go against her father based on differing philosophies after all. I really hope she doesn't.

I can't wait for the one-sideness of this war to end next episode.

Guess Meelo created his own airbending move.
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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Princess » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:49 am

Spoiler alert for any who haven't seen the episode, but I saw this gif set on Tumblr and thought it was interesting.

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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Morpheus » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:58 am

That would explain how he can take away bending but not how he can ignore something like blood bending.
Something has to be helping him.
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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Princess » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:29 pm

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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Princess » Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:40 pm

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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Hiroko » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:36 pm

I think you might appreciate this, if you haven't already seen it, Stuff:

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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Saint Soul » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:08 am

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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Tsunade » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:46 pm

That's zuko's voice damn it!!! whyyyyyyyyy

oh well....thanks for letting us know he's the grandson xD
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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Teran » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:59 pm

Yeah... I didn't enjoy Zuko's voice in this new character.
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Re: The Last Airbender: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka!)

Postby Princess » Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:08 pm

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