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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby OrangeBee » Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:11 am

Tenshi Nova wrote:I know this is hypocritical, but can you not quote and and make useless comments :p


If its hypocritical then why post at all..
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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby Tenshi Nova » Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:31 am

Bcuz I'm trying to inform you that what you're doing is much like spam.
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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby Mir@k » Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:46 am

Quoting a big post to write a small one is unnecesary but not spam.
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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby BeeAre » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:39 pm

all of this is dumb please return to discussing why Korra has a big ego like her gigantic guns and gams; if the discussion does not return to this i will punch you YES YOU!!!!!!!!!
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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby SpiderTiki » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:46 pm

Okay, i understand ego inflation and all of that jazz, but I simply, do NOT see how it could lead to outright stupidity the likes of which I have seen from korra, could someone explain to me why she doesnt bother to think about ANYTHING she does?

As far as wanting to be avatar badly goes, it honestly seems like she is the type of person who wants a high end position with a heavy workload, without the slightest bit of an idea what that job really entails, she knows what she has to do, but doesnt have a clue how or what to do to ensure her job gets done, its more like "I'll wing it it has worked before"

Shes like the person operating the crane in spiderman 3, except she's only ever driven trolleys.
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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby OrangeBee » Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:31 pm

My guess is that she thinks way to high of herself and doesn't see why she would need to do anything that complicated.

I feel sorry for the next avatar having to obtain advice from Korra

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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby Mon-Kitsune » Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:12 pm

Your assuming that each avatar has to use their immediate predecessor as their primary source. Yes, Aang primarily talked to Roku, and Korra has primarly talks to Aang (when she talks to anyone). But that's just two out of how many hundreds. The avatar appears to be able to contact ANY of his/her predecessors. If the next avatar doesn't like what Korra has to say, he* can simply listen to Aang, or Roku or even Kyoshi. I don't think there is a hard and fast rule.
Speaking of previous Avatars, anyone else think Korra will eventually have a session with what's his name, the last Water avatar. Beyond the fact that he presumably can understand whatever unique perspective water avatars have (in much the same way that Aang consulted the last airbender when he was having trouble with the idea of killing Ozai (he didn't take her advice, but at least he thought her advice might be worth something). He might have some info that was of manifest use to Korra RIGHT NOW. Since, if I recall he was a Northern Water Tribe Member, he may have some inside info Korra can use (it's probably out of date but still) And if Uniloq is genuinely Northern Tribe nationalist (as opposed to simply trying to aggrandize himself alone i.e. he does not care about his northern subjects any more than the southerners he is trying to conquer) That guy might be the only person Uniloq might actually obey (assuming that while in avatar state it is possible for an Avatar to channel his or her precarnations voices so you KNOW it's one of the others talking.)

*The avatars seem to alternate genders with respect of same tribe members. The last Airbender avatar before Aang was female, the last Water before Korra, male. So I tend to think the next Avatar after Korra will be a male Earthbender, followed by a female Firebender.
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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby MQuinny1234 » Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:49 am

If we're speaking of balance like that, would the avatars have shifting personalities too?
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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby Mon-Kitsune » Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:09 pm

Hard to say. After all we've only met about 4-5. And we only really know 3 as far as their personality sits (most of what we know of Kyoshi is more or less second hand, she hasn't said much on her own account) And personality is a waay too mercurial thing to be able to predict with certainty. I'd say personalities have a lot to do with how they are raised. Aang and the last airbender are pretty laid back and gentle, because that is the Airbender way. Roku was born a firebender, so he often thought like a firebender. and so on.
I just had a really funny idea, isn't it going to be funny if in three re-incarnations or so, when the cycle comes back to water, we wind up with a Swamp Bender avatar (hey the avatar can be born to ANYONE in the appropriate group). THAT's going to be amusing.
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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby Grieffon » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:20 pm

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I don't think the avatar alternate gender.
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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby Tenshi Nova » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:24 pm

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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby Mon-Kitsune » Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:10 pm

Yeah, that fire one before Roku looks like he does have a beard. Guess the genders are random. Never mind.

Interestingly, it looks like the female firebender before that one (behind the bearded one's right shoulder) has one of those royal family gold pieces in her hair. So it looks like The Fire Kingdom royal family ALREADY had some ties to the avatar BEFORE Ozai married Ursa.
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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby Tenshi Nova » Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:26 pm

The genders do alternate for elements. Air Female, Water Male, Earth Female, Fire Male, Air Male, Water Female...We can safely guess an Earth Male then a Fire Female.
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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby Mon-Kitsune » Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:34 pm

That's what I thought too; but the picture Grieffon posted refutes that. If that is how it worked, the Firebender that preceded Roku would have been a female. But the Firebender before him (the one in the tall hat that looks a little like Jafar from Aladdin) clearly has a moustache and beard, so he's male as well.
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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby Tenshi Nova » Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:36 pm

Ah, I see it now. Sorry, it somehow just bypassed my thoughts.
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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby SpiderTiki » Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:44 pm

Roku appears how he looked when he died, yet Kyoshi and aang appear very young, this leaves me to wonder. Did Aang die at a young age? Or do the avatars get to chose how they appear?
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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby Tenshi Nova » Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:48 pm

Aang died due to heart problems that came from being frozen for so long. I forgot where I read that. Kyoshi, I assume it was from war battles.
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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby Mon-Kitsune » Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:01 pm

It also looks like Korra was preceded by TWO male Waterbenders; the one before the male Earthbender with the long white beard seems to be a guy (I think the line reverses direction there, so that the Earth Guy's predecessor is standing behind him; not back at the right of the previos row.)
Actually for a while I thought there were TWO waterbenders standing behind the Earth guy, one male one female based on their dress. But I think the female is actually in the row behind that (she's smaller) and the Waterbender is just standing unusually far away from the one next to him. Either that or one of them is standing out of order (and they may, since there seems to be a waterbender missing from that column. You have the water guy, an airbender [the glowing arrows make it easy to pick the airbenders out] the female Firebender with the crown, someone who looks like an Earbender...and then the one next to him is clearly another airbender.

Aang died at the age of 68. As for Kyoshi, with the makeup she wears, it's a little hard to tell how old she is. But maybe Awatars can choose how they appear, the Water Guy doesn't look all that old either. Actually come to think of it, out of the ones we can see clearly, the only one besides Roku who looks old is the Earth Guy.
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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby SpiderTiki » Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:19 pm

Being the avatar is also a perilous job, many of them probably died fighting ( if aang was 68 im pretty sure he chose to appear younger)
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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby Mon-Kitsune » Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:40 am

Probably, but that does say a lot for how well controlled ALL of the previous avatars had to be (and by extrapolation how bad Korra is). Dying mostly in battle carries an awfully high risk of dying in the Avatar state since most Avatars would probably make use of it when truly threatened (it does give them their greatest chance of survival) So every avatar up till now would have had to do what Roku did (get out when the situation got too grim and resign himself to death). With the number of them, I find it a little hard to believe Korra is the FIRST hothead in the avatar line.
Yes adult Aang does look more like he's in his 30's not his sixties. The female airbender looks in her 30's too (though with that Kwan Yin/Bodhisattva look she has, she could be in her eighties and you probably couldn't tell.) Fire hat guy looks about 40-70 (it's hard to tell if those lines near his mouth are wrinkles or if he is just jowly)
Actually that also might explain the missing waterbender. I wonder what happen when an avatar dies before he masters the elements or even as an infant. The Avatar world parallels our to some degree historically, so one has to assume that, at some point in their history, infant mortality was pretty high. The Fire nation ASSUMED the avatar line broke when they killed off the airbenders (or maybe they didn't; they sent people down to capture or kill all of the southern Waterbenders. Maybe they assumed they were taking care of the NEXT avatar). But we have no concrete proof either way. Maybe when that happens, the cycle simply "skips" to the next one
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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby Tenshi Nova » Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:58 am

I had the same assumption with the Water Tribes being attacked.
I'm still surprised no Air Nomads were paranoid enough to hide.
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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby Mon-Kitsune » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:20 am

I think the problem may be in their lifestyle. Despite their name as nomads, the Air people seem to not have a lifestyle that particularly lends itself to solitary existence. Benders may move back and forth between the temples, but it looks like all of them live at one temple or another (or are in transit between them) Those temples are the centers of Air bender life. Take that away and it's probably hard for an individual airbender to last all that long (Aang, is a individual airbender, but he pretty much has companions with him from the moment he is unfrozen.) The spirituality is also an issue. to be paranoid enough to hide, you pretty much have to be more concerned with this life than any future ones. Most of the more experienced airbenders are probably so deep in the mysticism that they are somewhere in near nirvana anyway, and not all that concerned about dying (remember the Aribnder faith seeks to free one from the world Aang said so when he was talking to the female air avatar) As for hiding, where? The Air nations have minimal infrastructure. using sky bison makes one pretty obvios as an Airbender and where they live probably doesn't lend itself well to getting away if you can't fly or sail. Disguising oneself is hard, that tattoo extends below the hairline even if they do let their hairgrow out (or why Aang needed the headband) I can sort if imagine a few non masters managing to pass for other nationals, but the essence of what it means to be airbender would likely be largely lost. It almost got lost with just Aang; since there are some differences between Air Nomad customs and Air Acolyte customs (besides the acolytes not being able to bend)
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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby Tenshi Nova » Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:05 am

The nomads travelled a lot. Aang seemed to have been all over the world. I don't think it would've been hard for them to not tattoo the younger ones. I'm sure there would've been many Earth cities that would home them. Omashu cor example.
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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby Princess » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:12 pm

the show had potential... and then the last episode happened.


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Re: The Legend of Korra (Spoilers, nukka! Beware!)

Postby SpiderTiki » Wed Oct 09, 2013 5:40 am

I personally dont believe you can have character development like the kind they tried to give korra, at the begiining of the show.

In shows like Korra, its the characters flaws that create the story, like how aang ran away from his duties, getting trapped in that ice bubble for 100 years, if he hadn't it might have been a different story.

If a character goes through something that supposed to give them clarity, and then they revert to create the story, it just pisses fans off.
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