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Postby Shebum Devi » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:33 pm

I'm not into the whole homo thing, but I guess if it's animated, whatever... lol Watch angel sactuary if you're really wanting to talk about acceptance. Hooboy, they're siblings for crying out loud. Ugh!
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Postby VerticalEvent » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:35 pm

Yah, my friend was telling me about it. She absolutely loves that show.

The plot sounds confusing, but, then again, most people probably wouldn't watch it for the plot, now would they?
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Postby sootball » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:43 pm

Oo...eeeee.....siblings...gross....
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Postby Shebum Devi » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:47 pm

Um I would watch it for the plot... not to keen on the incest sorta thing. Plus it's a manga. They only made one episode. I believe it was for a demo reel for this company...

I know a little bit about it, and what I do leaves me befuddled, but the artwork's nice.
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Re: Can anyone ANYONE explain why......

Postby Nitro.exe » Sun Mar 06, 2005 5:53 am

Yaoi is strictly shojo. It seems only girls watch/read that stuff. and though Angelin says that girls think 2 guys kissing is 'cute' I have many female friends (perfectly heterosexual, and relatively normal) who think the guys kissing in their yaoi mangas are quite 'hot'. So they like characters who have absolutely NO interest in their gender. Always puzzled me, always will. The few Yuri mangas I've heard of are shojo 2. Though most guys (including myself) can appreciate seeing 2 girls going at it, most aren't interested in the back story at all.

On a related note, it also puzzles me how some ppl get so obsessed over anime characters, like they actually exist. More than 1 girl has told me with a straight face that they wanna have Sesshomaru's baby. o.O Guys do that too, with anime and videogame girls, but they don't squeal. Regardless, I just don't get it. Doesn't any1 like REAL people of the opposite sex anymore (besides me)? j/k
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Re: Can anyone ANYONE explain why......

Postby Rival » Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:20 am

Nitro.exe wrote:. The few Yuri mangas I've heard of are shojo 2. Though most guys (including myself) can appreciate seeing 2 girls going at it, most aren't interested in the back story at all.

Same here, i guess it`s normal for a male to enjoy Yuri fanart and not Yaoi. But i honestly don`t have anything agains`t Yaoi, it doesn`t offend me, i just don`t enjoy it. As for Yuri it depends but mostly i enjoy seing two girls kissing. What`s wrong about that?
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Re: Can anyone ANYONE explain why......

Postby A G.I.R Fan » Sun Mar 06, 2005 11:52 am

Ummmmmm EHHHHHhhhhhh..........

i found this......it was drawn by a GIRL.....

(The art its just cute, but that isn' the point of these, and no, iam not against anything, i was just asking WHY)

I think it will challenge some of your earlier statement kiddos

Theres no sex, No porn, its what you call Yuri (i think...) and its made by a girl

http://www.deviantart.com/view/12055163/

http://starfireraven.deviantart.com/gallery/

and it means i spent to much time in front of a computer ( I AM A LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!)


(Why Starfire and Raven??....)
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Re: Can anyone ANYONE explain why......

Postby Rival » Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:09 pm

A G.I.R Fan wrote:Ummmmmm EHHHHHhhhhhh..........

i found this......it was drawn by a GIRL.....

(The art its just cute, but that isn' the point of these, and no, iam not against anything, i was just asking WHY)

I think it will challenge some of your earlier statement kiddos

Theres no sex, No porn, its what you call Yuri (i think...) and its made by a girl

http://www.deviantart.com/view/12055163/

http://starfireraven.deviantart.com/gallery/

and it means i spent to much time in front of a computer ( I AM A LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!)


(Why Starfire and Raven??....)

Some of the pics (including the one you posted) are cute. but generally this drawing style isn`t my thing
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Re: Can anyone ANYONE explain why......

Postby Nitro.exe » Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:13 pm

A G.I.R Fan wrote:Ummmmmm EHHHHHhhhhhh..........

i found this......it was drawn by a GIRL.....

(The art its just cute, but that isn' the point of these, and no, iam not against anything, i was just asking WHY)

I think it will challenge some of your earlier statement kiddos

Theres no sex, No porn, its what you call Yuri (i think...) and its made by a girl

http://www.deviantart.com/view/12055163/

http://starfireraven.deviantart.com/gallery/

and it means i spent to much time in front of a computer ( I AM A LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!)


(Why Starfire and Raven??....)


Um.... yeah.... I guess it challenges some statements, but if anyone thinks all Yuri fanfics and mangas are just sex, sex, sex, they haven't seen any worthwhile ones (And if they think Yuri is for guys, they haven't seen much Yuri). Some of the pics are cute, but I've gotta mirror you in saying: Why Starfire and Raven??

But, oddly enough, that's not the first I've heard of an obviously heterosexual pair turned into a gay couple in fan works. (It's not the worst [most unlikely] I've heard of either, believe it or not)
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Re: Can anyone ANYONE explain why......

Postby Slipslash » Sun Mar 06, 2005 4:46 pm

*Looks a pic.* o.O I wonder where the rest of the TT was while they did that
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Postby Swamphunter » Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:38 pm

Rina Cat is an awsome artist. She's not exploiting lesbianism or doing anything you guys are thinking, she only draws them like that cuz she thinks it's cute.

Check her out Here!
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Re: Can anyone ANYONE explain why......

Postby A G.I.R Fan » Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:43 pm

pls tell me, in wich part of MY posts do i say that she exploits lesbianism......

And in which part of my posts does it says that i think....(wait, that sounds kinda wrong) >.@
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Postby Jack Salem » Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:56 pm

VerticalEvent wrote:Really? It doesn't bother me at all.

As for guys, well, I haven't seen two guys kissing yet, so, I have no comments (though I see nothing wrong with it.

Now, as for heterosexuals kissing... it makes me mad... since they tend to enjoy blocking off the hallways, so I can't get by.

And thats just a God damn shame I tell ya' what.
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Postby Acktoo » Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:06 pm

VerticalEvent wrote:Really? It doesn't bother me at all.

As for guys, well, I haven't seen two guys kissing yet, so, I have no comments (though I see nothing wrong with it.

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Postby megasxlr_fan20 » Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:48 pm

Swamphunter wrote:Man-on-man?
Clicky!
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o.O o.O o.O i have seen worse!! both naked having sex
:shock: :shock: and he gets off looking at it!! (friend of mine)

and now he wants to see someone bathing eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!! on digimon!! one of the digimon i think my friend is gay!!
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Re: Can anyone ANYONE explain why......

Postby PPGD Freak » Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:00 pm

I have no problem with this sort of thing. In the end, the characters are fictional, and I guess people like fantasizing about possible pair-ups with them.

Not the best example, but Sasami and Misao: Throughout Magical Project S you have moments between these two that almost make them seem like they have feelings for each other, but then the end of the series has them falling for Ryo-ohki and Rumiya, respectively.

I'm not exactly sure where I'm going with this anymore, so I'll just stop here....
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Very cute

Postby Obaba » Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:28 pm

Rincat's little doujin with Raven and Starfire is adorable. Being an ass about some things actually takes less effort than letting your guard down and accepting a kind deed for it's face value.
The fact that they were both female had little to do with situation. A hug is a hug. A kiss is a kiss. How you interpet it depends on wether you are the giver, reciver or observer.

Still I personally enjoy seeing tasteful same gender situations. You are right about most romantic Yaoi and Yuri being drawn by females. It's all usually Bishie anyway. Or at least cute.
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Re: Can anyone ANYONE explain why......

Postby stray » Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:30 pm

<replying without reading what everyone else says since i'm lazy, so sorry if i say something that's been said already>

the whole yaoi/yuri pairing is just fans who want to see their fave chars together. Sasuke and Naruto, for example, are paired by a lot of females because of their love for said characters (and hate for the useless pink-haired girl). Doesn't mean they're into guy/guy pairings...most of those i talk to wouldn't want to see two guys going at it (sorry for the bad images), but just want their fave chars in sexy poses...

as for yuri, same thing, but more of a chance for those who draw / write about them to be lesbians (or just a horny guy).

for me, all i say is
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Re: Can anyone ANYONE explain why......

Postby Jack Salem » Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:00 pm

A hug is a hug. A kiss is a kiss. How you interpet it depends on wether you are the giver, reciver or observer.

And that, my friends, is why Micheal Jackson molests children. He just loves them so much ^_^ (I know you guys are really starting to hate me right about now).

I don't know what yuri is but here's my answer to homosextuality or more commonly known as 'faggotness'.
Honestly, if you think you 'truely' love someone not of the oposite sex then you don't 'truely' love them. It's hard to explain but the attraction in the opposite sex has something deeper rooted in your genetics than like or dislike. It's human nature. It's the same genetic make-up that's been there since we formed from apes. It's the same stuff that gives birds mating calls although they didn't exactly 'learn' the call from other birds.

Homosextuality isn't something you're born with. It's the answer to an ethnical inbalance (sp? If thats even a word) in the culture. Therego mentally you can truely love another of the same sex but you cannot spiritually OR genetically truely love someone of same sex. Nommatter what definition of love that person may think is 'true', it's just not humanly possible.

I don't exactly get turned on by lesbians (OMFG ther's not gunna b no 'aktshon' betwen 2 gerlz! >.@ ) and I must've missed the memo that said lesbianism was 'cute' but hey, I guess it's just a matter of tastes.
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Postby Cali Defender » Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:00 pm

Why is it when 2 people show affection in public, most people dont care, but if two people try and beat the shit out of each other, people do?

there both emotions, love and hate, there both just other shades of grey.
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Re: Can anyone ANYONE explain why......

Postby Slipslash » Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:44 am

It justs go's to show you us humans are facinated with other peoples misfortune.If a man saved a bunch of kittens most of us wouldn't care and on the other hand if someone got run over by a car we would flock to the gruesome sight.We like hearing the bad more than the good or sappy for that matter.
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Re: Can anyone ANYONE explain why......

Postby stray » Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:05 pm

Jack Salem wrote:Homosextuality isn't something you're born with. It's the answer to an ethnical inbalance (sp? If thats even a word) in the culture.


Actually, you are born with it. When you're forming in mommy's belly, diff. levels of estro/androgen help you develop, affecting your physical features, brain patterns, etc. People do not "become" homosexual, they are born that way because of hormones and such.


blahblahblah, i'll research it some more. I just got out of a lab practical for bio, my brain's a mush.

DOES NOT MEAN HOMOSEXUALITY IS GENETIC!!!
your dad being one doesn't mean you will
it's just how you develop.
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Re: Can anyone ANYONE explain why......

Postby Rival » Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:18 pm

stray wrote:
Jack Salem wrote:Homosextuality isn't something you're born with. It's the answer to an ethnical inbalance (sp? If thats even a word) in the culture.


Actually, you are born with it. When you're forming in mommy's belly, diff. levels of estro/androgen help you develop, affecting your physical features, brain patterns, etc. People do not "become" homosexual, they are born that way because of hormones and such.


blahblahblah, i'll research it some more. I just got out of a lab practical for bio, my brain's a mush.

DOES NOT MEAN HOMOSEXUALITY IS GENETIC!!!
your dad being one doesn't mean you will
it's just how you develop.

Well in my opinion you become a homosexual and not get born that way.
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Postby Sylvia Stout » Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:50 pm

I can explain why. A wizard did it.

That's the explination for everything.

Various studies indicate a genetic and/or (early, perhaps in the womb) environmental component to homosexuality. Homosexual relationships also occur among animals, so it's perfectly natural, as far as I can tell. I've never had any problem with it. I'd go into the science/evidence more, but I'm not sure this is really the right place to discuss this.
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Re: Can anyone ANYONE explain why......

Postby stray » Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:25 pm

Kamisutra wrote:My personal philosophy is Empirism and i think we change depending on the environment in which we live and experience we gather.


Will you agree with me that the first few weeks that you develop is influenced by the environment; fluids in the uterus, chemicals and toxins your mother ingests, hormones your mother's body secrets...
if alcohol can make a child retarted, why can't too much estrogen make a child become homosexual in later dates

Of course, other things will trigger homosexuality (or bisexuality), development is not the only reason.

But the whole point i'm trying to make is that sometimes it can't be helped, sometimes people just are born homosexual. If one had a choice, why would they deny their sexuality and fight it so feverently, but end up being homosexual anyway?
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