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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:47 pm 

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Sorry I think in my last post it wasnt clear what I meant. When I said Sugar bits book I didn't mean a novel ^_^; I meant that he takes the comic pages and sell it as comic book. any extra writing would be commentary only ( How I thought of this, In comparrison to Grim and PPGD) giving people the ability to show someone the comic on the road, on a plane, in the car. He could sell it at any of the sites that sell web comic stuff

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It'd still take traffic away from the site.

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I don't think it's popular enough to NOT take traffic away from the site.

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I still say that he would never have enough time to actually get through with something like that.


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Know what I'd actually love to see related to this? A Sugarbits cover/back cover page. The PPGD has em and if I were to print out any of the comics this'd be it.


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A Sugarbits graphic novel is better left for when the series is finished. plus bleed would have to find a publisher willing to invest in the series and distribute it plus translate it for reading worldwide that would not try to take the copyright away from him.

and plus the comic may have to taken down or sereverly edited to help promote sales or due to legal reasons.

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what legal reasons?


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I was gonna say it uses non-original characters such as the powerpuff girls, but this is sugarbits we're talking about.

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Everything in Sugarbits is completely original as far as I can tell. So, there should be no problem getting it published as soon as Bleed finishes it. It's worth trying over and over again to get it published, I think. Probably won't get picked up on the first shot, but we all read it, so chances are somebody else out there will enjoy it.


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Yeah, I see how making a GN of PPGD or Gt would cause some trouble, due to unoriginal characters, bu SB its a completely original comic.

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It'd still take traffic away from the site.


Because, you know, Penny Arcade and the like lost tonnes of traffic after releasing their books.

OH WAIT.

Edit: WHAT LEGAL REASONS? Sugar Bits is (For all intents and purposes of this argument) all original content. Should he wish to compile and sell it in physical form alongside the web version (Read: Every other webcomic) there are no legal reasons to stop him.

The biggest problem he'd face? People not buying it.

You people, honestly.

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Yes, why buy the comic when you can get em free online.

I on the other hand told vinz if he's going to sell the comic in paperformat. Give lots of extras and never before seen panels.

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Hmm.... Colored or black and white (but it has thicker content)?

If he's aiming for colored, why not try submitting to mangaholix or something? :3

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If it were black and white I don't think I'd enjoy it as much, but more content would certainly make up for that along with certain pages and extras in color.

And Seir, I would buy it despite it being free online. I like having the content in physical form (check my book collection) and I would be glad to support Bleed seeing as how I do have the money for it. I don't know if I'd pay for Grim Tales and PPGD (not that he could market them), but because I enjoy Sugarbits' originality and Bleed's stuff in general, I'd pick up all the copies I could. And I'm sure others feel the same.


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Yeah Black and white wouldn't be any fun. And I still Buy the comic's of a series i have already downloaded off the internet just cause i want them to carry around. And i think a small Graphic Novel book would be great to carry around. Id really enjoy that.

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You know he already tried publishing something....right?
Has ANYONE here even heard of Bleed 1.0 ?

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MDK wrote:
You know he already tried publishing something....right?
Has ANYONE here even heard of Bleed 1.0 ?

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Yes, I have. How it pertains to the argument of whether or not Sugar Bits could be published or not I don't know.

The whole argument here is that someone went, "Wouldn't it be dandy if Sugar Bits came out in hardcover/paperback?" to which people responded with, "It'd take traffic away from the site," and, "The webcomic would need to be removed or edited for legal reasons."

Both statements are ridiculous. The first because it's shown that people are more likely to read the free, online version and just because a book exist it doesn't mean people stop visiting the site. Example: See Penny Arcade, Sam and Fuzzy and so on. Second, given that in terms of IP Sugar Bits is entirely owned by Bleedman there'd be no requirement for him to edit his own work to sell something he owns. Think along the lines of people at Deviant Art selling prints of some of their work. They made the original picture but they can print and sell it too. Same thing.

Now fuck off and leave me alone.

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Yoshi, you seem in an angry mood, today. Or maybe it's just the retarded threads that are making you this way.


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He pretty much covered the whole discussion in a concise paragraph. Yay.

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