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Re: Dream walking home

Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:05 am

lol, thanks for that.

I'm sure if it's just me, but conversation seems dull for the last 3-4 pages. I just personally see no interest in Junior/Mimi and 'omg is she going to fall'. At least not for the moment.

Re: Dream walking home

Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:19 pm

I wonder if Hoss or Raven could be in the Ghost Zone. Do all dead people end up in the ghost zone or are there special requirements? I can't remember because it's been a while since I watched Danny Phantom.

Re: Dream walking home

Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:46 pm

I wouldn't know the exact rules in considering the application of death in this Universe and in consideration of the Ghost Zone, in which ghosts can reproduce with each other and others...

IF there is a link between Death and the Ghost Zone, then that would further straighten the case for an alliance between the Grims and Walker.

Whatever the series of rules are, I bet its complicated because you had the Redeemer who came down and was going to escort Minnie personally to the gates of Heaven. He's justification was that her soul was "too" pure.

Re: Dream walking home

Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:10 am

I think it's more likely that Hoss, Raven, and the majority of the heroes, made it into heaven.

Blord brings up an interesting point about the Redeemer. If anyone who is qualified to get into heaven is held in the Ghost Zone (or anywhere in the underworld for that matter), then then wouldn't the Redeemer (or someone from Heaven's arm) be on the scene to bail them out?

But I have to wonder about Blossom. Could she be held up in the Ghost Zone's Prison?

Re: Dream walking home

Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:46 am

Mimi has a Bada$$ Longcoat? This bodes ill for Junior -- and she's so hungry that the image of a single muffin in her mind's eye can propel her through the window. I don't think Junior has the power or heart to actually stop her, after all the last time she went Crazy for Muffins a Lava Golem was required to do so.

I'm not seeing any glowing effect around Mimi's feet, so I doubt it's her powers -- unless Junior simply cannot see power-based auras. But then why wouldn't he be able to when he's got one of Minnie's eyes, and one with the characteristics of Death? Mimi doesn't seem to be wall-running, though her Bada$$ Longcoat is streaming behind her. I'm fairly sure I don't understand what's going on here, due partially to the perspective.

On the issue of what happens to a soul after death, we know that there are multiple Underworld realms, each with its own ruler, to which a soul can go if they have enough sin on their balance sheets. Further, we know of at least 1 Heavenly realm thanks to the Redeemer, Minnie, and Dee Dee. As Walker's realm is one of the Underworld realms, and it is probably within the Ghost Zone, that means residents of the Ghost Zone probably have a red balance.

Then, of course, there are realms such as Valhalla that are intended as a warrior's reward, and Hel as its balance, at least in the Marvelverse.

There are many options, and whichever one gets used is probably determined by a person's overall soul balance, and not by any particular deed or misdeed. I believe that due to their efforts in saving people's lives, most heroes would have a positive balance. I doubt Blossom having given birth to Mimi because of HIM would be sufficient to damn her, however neglecting her daughter to save the world (and ultimately fail) might give the redhead some red. And this is after counting that she was killed by her own daughter.

I'm fairly certain Raven would have a positive balance, though she wouldn't be as 'pure' as Dee Dee or Minnie.

Re: Dream walking home

Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:55 am

Bada$$ Longcoat? More like Bada$$ Long dress. Similar effect though. As for where people go when they die, I assumed that the ghost zone was just full of lost souls and vengeful spirits who didn't make it to heaven or hell. So ghosts can make baby ghosts but if we assume that at least most of them are the ghosts of people who died then I would guess that the Ghostzone would side with Grim over HIM. But there are ghosts like Skulker and Behemoth who don't even look human, where would they even come from? It was possible in DP for ghosts to change there form so it could be possible for ghosts to also lose there form over time but I never thought of Skulker as human. Ghosts like the Fright Knight and Pariah Dark, what would qualify them to rule the Ghostzone? Was it just that they were more powerful than the others? Who could they have been in life that would make them so powerful in death.

Re: Dream walking home

Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:22 pm

Ari and Xi have a good point but who nows if the ghost zone has other portals so the "non-human" ghosts could have come through from other portals from other ghost hunters throughout the universe.
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