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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 3:42 pm 
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um i just thought of something what if mandy does have another girl and she falls in super major harder than minne :redfaced: love minne get pissed then mimi feels the distubance appears and get pissed then they have a battle royale then they make jr decied who to choose

Uhm, when this girl is 10, Junior an Minnie are older than 20. o.O


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the plot is getting way to compliated and things are starting to get alittle to goofy for my taste

You can't follow this?
Really...?
I find it extremly simple. (Yet i still love it)

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kingkee13 wrote:
um i just thought of something what if mandy does have another girl and she falls in super major harder than minne :redfaced: love minne get pissed then mimi feels the distubance appears and get pissed then they have a battle royale then they make jr decied who to choose

Uhm, when this girl is 10, Junior an Minnie are older than 20. o.O


But, Minnie will still look the same.
Not to mention the fact that Jr. (I hope) can still look humana with the help of the nergal powers. So...basiclly if Jr. can still do that trick, it would be as if nothing ever changed?
(Only making estimations at this point.)

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 Post subject: Re: Much Ado About Mandy
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The thing that would´ve changed is the fact that Junior is an adult then. Even if he turns human.
I think saw his adult human face somewhere in Bleeds DA gallery once, but I can´t find it at the moment...


EDIT: Found it: http://bleedman.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d1wj4zs


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 Post subject: Re: Much Ado About Mandy
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2)I dunno. The lack of face & the shadow of her hair indicate... depression :?
4)I think this comic has enough "forbidden love", doesn't it?

2)Of course she will be depresed (if i'd stay in childs body when i'm 20 i would be depresed too).
Also the red ribon around her neck looks like a http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=100
some thing that can belong to Mimi or even him.
4)Ther's never enough perwersion in this world. :rock:
But you are right about one thing two incests in one plot can be posible only in Greece mifology.

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1)Jr will be a strong badass :)
2)Minny stay as a Looli :? (her new body didnt grow at all i gues) and it looks like she is controling thouse monsters (or being held as prisoner by them).
3)Mimi is hotter but isn't as cute as she was.
4)Ghost twins    I sence another cute incest couple here :devil:   
1) Something tells me he wont.
2) Minnie is gonna turn evil. I would almost bet money on it.
4) Something tells me no.

2)I bet on her being captured and held hell knows where in (what a surprise) HELL by HIM since then.
It explains why she isnt aging, the war between monsters and JR + the part where JR talks with parents (Mimi probably told Jr of his sisters wereabouts).
4)Only the time will tell. (or Clockwork if you get on his good side)


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 Post subject: Re: Much Ado About Mandy
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:? WTF ... ???? i have nothing .. i need to rest my ... head .. hurts ... have to ... damn ...

I want to see the new son of mandy .. i am sure it will be a boy ... a very powerful one ...

I vote for a cute Danielle-like girl.

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Of the three?

mmm...in my opinion the 3 he mentioned doesnt include Grim...

We have Evil Danny, Nergal Jr. and someone else I believe everyone have been wondering who the HELL he is... >:(

I never watched the cartoons to its ENTIRE conclusion...nor its full seasons...

In my opinion its not Timmy Turner...because unlike Danny and Nergal Jr. he has absolutly no powers of his own...only the fairies who by an older age are suppose to already disappear and he wouldnt remember them.

Yes, Grim Jr. DOES have blue eyes, and light brown hair in his human form...and I don't think the hairstyle counts...

Let's just impatiently wait for the answer to come...

......

I REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO MIMI!!!!

Also I think Mandy is not Mimi's mother, it has just been proven Mandy has had 3 uhhh affairs, the ones mentioned above...

With the pictures shown in deviantart...I really hope Mimi and Junior become a couple ^^, also there is Jewel~

I guess the twins will be called Manny and Danielle...

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Jewel isn't even cannon. Griddles already said Mimi can't even produce children so Jewel isn't even suppose to exist. (she was a commission from someone who had the idea for her) Though the couple pairing is still possible.

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sinistra-sundown wrote:
The thing that would´ve changed is the fact that Junior is an adult then. Even if he turns human.
I think saw his adult human face somewhere in Bleeds DA gallery once, but I can´t find it at the moment...


EDIT: Found it: http://bleedman.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d1wj4zs

Well, he has the same basic look, longer hair, more depressed face.
Overall the same, but yeah, i think if Minnie is still in love with him when he looks like that, it's safe to say that family incest may grow larger? lol

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AHHHHH! Danielle! did he say he had a relationship with her or did i read that wrong. better read it again. damn it seems incest runs thru here like a nude kid at a high school football game.

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 Post subject: Re: Much Ado About Mandy
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i am not to sure if im late for this but....the twin will be half ghost and half human...in one of the sketches bleedman made http://bleedman.deviantart.com/gallery/ ... 4#/d2vuw90 u can see them in ghost form but in this one http://bleedman.deviantart.com/gallery/ ... 4#/d2xo9wd they have a human skin so...umm yah


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caveman wrote:
2)I bet on her being captured and held hell knows where in (what a surprise) HELL by HIM since then.
It explains why she isnt aging, the war between monsters and JR + the part where JR talks with parents (Mimi probably told Jr of his sisters wereabouts).
Your saying stuff doesn't age in Hell? That would then require that Minnie be captured soon after the events WHAM. I think her body just doesn't age. Also if Afterbirth follows a mission to rescue Minnie, I would be disappointed. That's so straight forward. I demand a psychological thrill from my stories. Give me some wrenching decisions, some societal controversy, some deep rooted conspiracy to explore.
Also, tons of potential plots fill all of those points. Jr could be fighting those monsters for millions of reasons, and he could be talking to his parents in order to get a straight answer as to WTF is going on around here.

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AHHHHH! Danielle! did he say he had a relationship with her or did i read that wrong. better read it again. damn it seems incest runs thru here like a nude kid at a high school football game.
Better read it a third time. It didn't say that.

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Hawaiian4ever wrote:
i am not to sure if im late for this but....the twin will be half ghost and half human...in one of the sketches bleedman made http://bleedman.deviantart.com/gallery/ ... 4#/d2vuw90 u can see them in ghost form but in this one http://bleedman.deviantart.com/gallery/ ... 4#/d2xo9wd they have a human skin so...umm yah

Yup i was right about Minnie staing as a looli :D
   And i sill belive that JR-Mimi-Minnie harem trio is still posible    :twisted:
BTW, thouse of you who keeps wondering about JR's father.
The RED WINGS dont look like the part of Nergal at all, i assume tis a hint about his true heritage. "googleyeyes"


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@Imosa I would be disappointed by that being the core plot as well, but I could see it being used as a catalyst to advance the plot to bigger and better things. How many world-saving (or destroying) RPGs start with the hero rescuing a village local from a cave of wolves or something, after all?

That Danielle comment DD made has been bugging me... The way he talks of "working on it", she obviously isn't dead/destroyed/whatever you call it when ghosts meet a permanent end. Maybe he tried corrupting her but she rebelled and turned for the good? Either way, I can't imagine her not appearing in the comic at some future time now...


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Your saying stuff doesn't age in Hell? That would then require that Minnie be captured soon after the events WHAM. I think her body just doesn't age. Also if Afterbirth follows a mission to rescue Minnie, I would be disappointed. That's so straight forward. I demand a psychological thrill from my stories. Give me some wrenching decisions, some societal controversy, some deep rooted conspiracy to explore.
Also, tons of potential plots fill all of those points. Jr could be fighting those monsters for millions of reasons, and he could be talking to his parents in order to get a straight answer as to WTF is going on around here.

No im no saing that it dosent age :frown: , more like her soul was riped from her body. And Grim family stashed the body somewere wrere it will be safe and isn't roting (i doubt that JR sceleton body would grow, or move, or stay alive, without a soul, same with Minnie's frankenbody)
Also simple things that are horribly twisted may become a masterpiece with the same chances as some thing new and unexpected. (becouse in the end something new, is always something old and simple that was twisted by the human's imagination). ^_^
   And bleedman's comics are always twisted :twisted: (thats is the reason why we love it)   


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@Imosa I would be disappointed by that being the core plot as well, but I could see it being used as a catalyst to advance the plot to bigger and better things. How many world-saving (or destroying) RPGs start with the hero rescuing a village local from a cave of wolves or something, after all?

That Danielle comment DD made has been bugging me... The way he talks of "working on it", she obviously isn't dead/destroyed/whatever you call it when ghosts meet a permanent end. Maybe he tried corrupting her but she rebelled and turned for the good? Either way, I can't imagine her not appearing in the comic at some future time now...
Yes, I don't like it as the core plot. Sure she can get captured and sure it can be interesting. I don't know why anyone would want her though.
I thought I'd make a note on the depression thing. Minnie is going to be useless in Afterbirth because Junior seems to learn how to control the Nergals. Feeling worthless, that is a reason for depression.
It sounded to me like Dan was "working" on a girl's name just in case Mandy had a girl.

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No im no saing that it dosent age :frown: , more like her soul was riped from her body. And Grim family stashed the body somewere wrere it will be safe and isn't roting (i doubt that JR sceleton body would grow, or move, or stay alive, without a soul, same with Minnie's frankenbody)
Also simple things are that are horribly twisted may become a masterpiece with the same chances as some thing new and unexpected. (becouse in the end some thing new, is always some thing old and simple that was twisted by the human's imagination). ^_^
I'm not sure what your talking about with Minnie's body.
Ok, what is the horrible twist in your plot? If all you say is Minnie gets kidnapped and Junior rescues her, then that doesn't sound interesting. You have to sell the idea a little more.

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Imosa wrote:
I'm not sure what your talking about with Minnie's body.
Ok, what is the horrible twist in your plot? If all you say is Minnie gets kidnapped and Junior rescues her, then that doesn't sound interesting. You have to sell the idea a little more.

Well if you look at it that way than every plot is based on:
1)The main hero wants to achive something,
2)the story is about him achiving that some some thing (some times the hero dosent ewen knows what it is until the end),
3)then there are posible finals
a)he achived it and lived hapily ever after.
b)he achived it but died in the end.
c)he achived it but lost some thing even more imporntant. (life of someone dear to him for example)
d)he died in misery without achiving it, but left an example.
f)he understand that he alredy have it or dosent need it anymore (usualy when he already accomplished the task).
Absolutely every story based on this.

My point is, the diference being made by how the story will be served.
Even the simplest plot, like the one i mentioned can become some thing tasty if you add some mistery,
drama, comedy and sexual content :twisted: in right proportions.

p.s. about Minnies body there was some sneak peek at this http://bleedman.deviantart.com/gallery/ ... 4#/d2xo9wd she is way shorter than Mmi or JR like she didnt grow at all.


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I still think it's sad that Minnie will never grow anymore :(
Also, it's so quiet...

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I still think it's sad that Minnie will never grow anymore :(
Also, it's so quiet...

Well no one said that she stays like this forever. :| they can aways create a new body for her, or even recriate this one with a litle help from nergal. Or prehaps she starts gromving on her own, if my theory about Minnies soul abduction is correct. :?
Besides having cute 19-20 yars old looli as a sister i doubt that Jr will be sad :twisted: ,
at least he wasnt sad back then http://bleedman.deviantart.com/gallery/ ... 0#/d1brsq4
as for Minnie, I think as long as Jr is interested in her she never will be sad.
http://bleedman.deviantart.com/art/You- ... 8123&qo=23
Btw http://bleedman.deviantart.com/gallery/ ... 4#/d2xo9wd if you look clously at the scetces you will see that JR covering both Minnie and Mimi with his wings, hooray for hapy harem ending. :happy: :rock:


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@caveman: Alright yes, any plot line could be a tour de force but that's harder to do with some then with others.

I just can't see Junior staying with Minnie. She's a horrible person and people are bound to figure that out.

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I just can't see Junior staying with Minnie. She's a horrible person and people are bound to figure that out.


??? where and in what way or place    or bodypart :twisted:    is she horible? :eek:
Kinky yes :) , slightly perverted- perhaps :grin:, cute 100% :mrgreen: , but horible... :frown:
If i remember correctly her soul was angel like and from all the deadly sins there was only lust and anger (second is moustly from Mandy's heretige).



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i am new but there is a point that must be clear up Grim Jr can be billy son because genetics of the two parents are mix in to a single child grim Jr hair color could come from his grand father Mandy dad or mother plus Billy was a good catch his grandfather and his dads were strong and good for fitting. She make Billy do all of the physical labor so he can be Jr dad in my point.


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another thing Grim Jr is not Minnie brother he is Grim son so he is death in self for that is not possible for them to related by any-means only if you say they were raise together but that in a matter of psychology.


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@alchemist light
dont, double post please. :|
1)Mandy is a mother of all the kids in grims family
2)Grim cant have kids on his own (or at least he belives that way)
3)Bond between JR and Minni will be considored as incest    But who cares?! They are all monsters either way :)   


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we are toking that grim Jr is not human in any way so he and his dad grim are not even consider normal souls they are death so Mandy her self is not his mother. Their is no real union of blood between Grim Jr or Minnie they can be related at all i am not okay with the relationship but why are speaking of two souls from two different origins , one more thing have you ever seeing Mandy parents her dad has brown hair and her mom blue eyes it is know as Recessive Genes plus so Billy can be grim Jr dad that what i post


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alchemist light wrote:
we are toking that grim Jr is not human in any way so he and his dad grim are not even consider normal souls they are death so Mandy her self is not his mother. Their is no real union of blood between Grim Jr or Minnie they can be related at all i am not okay with the relationship but why are speaking of two souls from two different origins , one more thing have you ever seeing Mandy parents her dad has brown hair and her mom blue eyes it is know as Recessive Genes plus so Billy can be grim Jr dad that what i post

http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=79 read this one more time. Normal ortal soul in the undead body.


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