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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby Mr. Sefrol » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:16 pm

Does it mess with their stomachs?
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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby Mr. Sefrol » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:18 pm

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Dammit whatis. How could you let the media get a hold of this?
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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby Creppy Eggy » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:25 pm

Hehe butts.
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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby Mr. Sefrol » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:27 pm

I haven't watched Criminal Minds in forever.

Thanks for reminding me Stuff.
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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby Spoopy Princess » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:35 pm

I only watch for Matthew Grey Gubler.
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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby Mr. Sefrol » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:55 pm

I still haven't watched that movie that he was in about a person who jumped into another person's life every day.
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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby Krest » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:06 pm

Princess wrote:Still not okay, especially using "trap".


Trap is too commonly used to be seen as offensive. It's like if someone is gay. The term "gay" is too common to be seen as offensive when used to refer to actual gays.

And just because someone crossdresses or drags, that doesn't make them a trap. Transsexuals and transgenders aren't necessarily traps.

Traps are individuals who are both transgender AND transvestite who typically refuse to admit that their gender and sex don't match. This is meant to reinforce their own and others' perception of them, making people generally see them as having sexual natures related to their gender. For example, certain body parts will be referred to differently (chest called breasts, for example). This is why they're called traps.

The guys in that ad ARE traps, because the ad specifically wants you to think of them as both women and females, regardless of specifications.


In a similar way, calling gays homosexual is actually incorrect - since gay refers to romantic orientation while homosexual refers to sexual orientation.
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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby Whatis6times9 » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:13 pm

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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby Tuor » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:15 pm

I'm failing to see the difference between transgender and "trap" in the way that you have explained it.
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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby Krest » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:24 pm

Transgenders live in the same way as the gender(s) not associated with their sex.

Transvestites dress in the same way as the gender(s) not associated with their sex.

Both of the above still recognize their actual sex.

Traps, on the other hand, are transgenders AND transvestites that fool themselves into thinking they are of the sex associated with their gender role in order to better have others think of them as both the gender AND sex.

We call them traps as a recognition of their accomplishment. It is used in a positive context - after all, if it didn't work it would be called a trick, not a trap.
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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby Tuor » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:27 pm

All I really care about is the first half of the last sentence, the rest of it I'm not going to get into arguing about, but I'm happy to have found out why it is you call them traps
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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby Krest » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:28 pm

A good example of this is Bridget. She is a NUN. Nuns aren't restricted to women - they are restricted to females. Thus, Bridget is making people think that she is FEMALE, not just a girl/woman.
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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby Tuor » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:29 pm

I'm not gonna argue with you about this
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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby Krest » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:29 pm

???

Oh, I was just giving an example. :P
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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby Whatis6times9 » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:31 pm

Except most transwomen by that definition are transvestites as well.
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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby Krest » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:38 pm

Bit they don't fool themselves into thinking they are of the opposite sex. Traps do.

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AND SCRATCH WHAT I SAID EARLIER ABOUT BRIDGET. I never played GG so I decided to just double check my work and LOOK WHAT I FOUND. Bridget, you traitor! :0 *cries*
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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby MERASMUS! » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:43 pm

Double check before you post.
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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby MERASMUS! » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:43 pm

You're learning at least.
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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby Birdofterror » Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:46 pm

You know, the internet is so wrapped up in classifications, so many of them ramming together to invalidate other classifications. I've learned to just smile and nod. Preferred Proverbs is just before where I draw the line. If someone wants me to call them something else than what I would normally classify at a glance, then fine, I think that's fair and I can oblige.

But sometimes just SO MANY classifications, it gets silly after so much. I wonder if they're just fucking with people sometimes.
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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby Hiroko » Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:03 pm

Krest, please stop.

I've already told you before, and I'll say it again here. Using "trap" to refer to people is a transmisogynistic slur. It doesn't matter how you interpret it, it doesn't matter if people in the anime community have unknowingly reclaimed it as a anime trope term to refer to cis boys who look and/or dress like girls or who otherwise have feminine presentation (and I know that people who do this mean well and just don't realize it), it is still a slur, and one that still hurts and triggers trans women and is still used in transphobic ways. And you cannot reclaim slurs in the name of an oppressed and marginalized group of people. You cannot tell them that the word has positive meanings now, when they are the ones who are still being dehumanized and ridiculed by that word.

So please stop. And I ask of you, to please do a lot of research about being transgender and gender issues as a whole. Because your views on it and how you interpret it are extremely skewed and are borderline transphobic, and I don't think you quite understand what a trans person actually is.


And please drop this subject, like I've already asked before.
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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby Krest » Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:07 pm

I know the definitions of ALL types of trans people.

And as I already explained before, it stops being a slur when it is used commonly even by those labeled by it. Gay is a slur and yet gays use it to refer to themselves. Perhaps YOU should do some research.
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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby Krest » Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:08 pm

I am sick and tired of people starting shit with me just because. If you actually read my posts instead of TL;DRing you would have seen that I did my research. Instead, you decided to be an asshole and pick a fight without even actually reading what I wrote.
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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby Krest » Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:09 pm

I don't start shit. Freedom of speech does not start shit. Replying to free speech in an argumentative manner starts shit, and that's all you and other members have been doing.
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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby Tuor » Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:14 pm

I think Hiroko was more than fair in how she addressed you. She certainly wasn't being an asshole. She read what you wrote, I read what you wrote, there are problems with how you define various things and how the people actually living those lives define them.
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Re: Spam Buttocks Tale Sharing Talk Thread Number XIX

Postby Whatis6times9 » Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:14 pm

1. Just because someone uses a slur as a self descriptor doesn't mean it stop being a slur. (see: nigger, fag, wop, spic)
2. Gay was never a slur. Fag, homo, queen, dyke, queer, those are slurs.
3. You never show your research and people read your posts, it just happens that your opinions are poorly informed and you don't back down when you're shown to be wrong.
4. There's no such thing as free speech on a privately owned forum.
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