It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Jasthn » Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:01 pm

Mir@k wrote:The problem with mm is that it's an idiotically fantastic story with loads of symbolism up the colon dressed up in re-used tinfoil, but people who could see past the chrome they would see lots of things were not just blatantly copy-pasted. Yes they copied character models, but the reason for this is justified in-game with one of the best mindfucks ive experienced in videogames. Also, they reworked the models to give them more fluid movements, new expressions and in some cases, new textures. It was not just lazy design.


I agree with the whole mind fuck part. After I had played the game, yes I loved it. What truly got me hooked though was when I started looking in to the whole story some years later, and found out all the "copied models" were supposed to mean something in itself.

I love the story and hidden messages of the game that were not pointed out, but rather hinter at and had to be thought on. The Deku shrub at the beginning of the game, the masks at the beginning of the game when Link falls down the hole, the mask itself and the dungeons themselves all show some sort of symbolism and that aone will keep me buried in text for hours. It was a work of art, I still think that this game is one of those that gets overlooked and didn't get the ratings it should have. It was under rated if you will.
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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Whatis6times9 » Thu Jan 24, 2013 2:03 pm

Vegedus wrote:Ah yes, people complaining about Nintendo constantly remaking stuff while in the other corner people are chanting "NINTENDO! Y U NO REMAKE MAJORA'S MASK?!"

That's what always happens with Nintendo, on one side it's people tired of the constant recycling and wanting something new and the other side is fine with the recycling they just want certain things recycled.
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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Mr. Sefrol » Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:34 pm

Mir@k wrote:Yes they copied character models, but the reason for this is justified in-game with one of the best mindfucks ive experienced in videogames.

Wait, they actually explain this in-game?! I never finished it, so...
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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Jasthn » Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:37 pm

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Mir@k wrote:Yes they copied character models, but the reason for this is justified in-game with one of the best mindfucks ive experienced in videogames.

Wait, they actually explain this in-game?! I never finished it, so...


No, they did not explain it in game. They hinted at it very lightly if I recall, but they never blatantly said it. The Majora's Mask theory on this is quite long, but very interesting. The short story is that each character in Hyrule has a copy in Eterna for lack of a better word. Go look at it, the theory is really quite interesting and a good read.
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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Kkeellaacc » Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:38 pm

Story wise it's an alternate dimension, development wise they had about a year to make a new game which also inspired the 3-day timelimit.
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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Vegedus » Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:41 pm

Yeah, it sounds more like a clever justification than a "Yeah, that was totally on purpose and we deliberately didn't make new art assets!"
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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Havoc » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:32 pm

One of the roomers as to why majora's mask looks so much like Oot, was that it had something to do with Ura zelda's sudden, and early cancellation.
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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Whatis6times9 » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:42 pm

Ura got released as Master Quest, Majora's Mask evolved out of a project called Gaiden.
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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Exodis » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:41 pm

That's right. Ura was gonna be an expansion for OOT and Gaiden was also gonna be a "side-story" for OOT. The reason for them not coming to be what they were is because of the 64DD (Nintendo 64 Disc Drive) being a failure. To learn more:
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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Jasthn » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:49 pm

I love Gaming Mysteries.

I kind of wish that the DD was a success though, to see where things could have potentially ended up and gone, not just for Zelda, but for other games that would have used it.
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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Exodis » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:58 pm

Yuriofwind is such an awesome guy.

I actually wasn't aware the DD was even made... no wonder there were extensions at the bottom of my N64.
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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Whatis6times9 » Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:02 pm

Most of the 64 DD games were released for the 64 but required the GamePak.
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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Havoc » Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:32 pm

I see you guys watch Gaming Mysteries too.
It's a shame the 64DD failed it, it held so much potential. Like Earthbound 64, Zelda 64, and Super Mario 64 2.
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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Kkeellaacc » Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:48 pm

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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Mir@k » Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:50 pm

My eyes.

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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Whatis6times9 » Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:51 pm

The original images are stretched, I also think the original looks better too much bloom.
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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Mir@k » Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:52 pm

IT LOOKS LIKE FUCKING PLAYMOBILE TOYS

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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Kkeellaacc » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:02 am

They probably kicked up the effects for the photos, I bet the actual game will be different
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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Whatis6times9 » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:15 am

I hope so because it looks worse.
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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Jasthn » Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:23 am

You mean like making products over saturated in color/ super shiny to try and make it look more slick? I think I get what you're trying to say though.
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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Havoc » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:26 am

It does seem a bit overdone, as far as colors goes.

Mir@k wrote:IT LOOKS LIKE FUCKING PLAYMOBILE TOYS


That would be a pretty accurate description.
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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Kkeellaacc » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:36 am

They're experimenting with effects and lighting and all sorts of stuff, wouldn't be surprised if it looked a lot different.
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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Birdofterror » Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:51 am

Calek wrote:They're experimenting with effects and lighting and all sorts of stuff, wouldn't be surprised if it looked a lot different.
I hope you're right. It would be kind of annoying to have this much saturation in colors.

WW was already timeless with their art style, it didn't need any 'improvements.'
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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Hiryu » Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:16 am

Probably gonna end up looking like Skyward Sword. After all, SS was highly influenced on WW.
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Re: It's not a Majora's Mask remake like the fans wanted.

Postby Grey » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:57 am

it looks like it has literally been polished to a shine

i can't see shit from the glare
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