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Postby Hiryu » Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:24 pm

Aww man. Guess I'll go back to downloading Adventure Time then.
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Re: And the good lord sayeth: Come forth The Talk Thread XVIII!

Postby Jingle Males » Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:43 pm

Whatis6times9 wrote:Yeah, I think it's ironic that we complain about how boring game PR is and clickbaiting bullshit. But Fish is hated for saying what he feels and calling out the industry.

To be fair, this is the same guy who went to japan and told them they suck at making games and told people to choke on his dick after wining an award.
When it comes to saying what he feels: there's being civil and there's being a total ass.
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Re: And the good lord sayeth: Come forth The Talk Thread XVIII!

Postby Whatis6times9 » Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:57 pm

He wasn't even in Japan, he was on a panel at GDC and gave a very blunt opinion when asked about his view on modern Japanese games. And I thought the suck my dick thing was pretty funny.
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Re: And the good lord sayeth: Come forth The Talk Thread XVIII!

Postby Jingle Males » Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:21 pm

Well you got me there, still find his explosion on twitter pretty childish
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Re: And the good lord sayeth: Come forth The Talk Thread XVIII!

Postby Exodis » Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:32 pm

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Re: And the good lord sayeth: Come forth The Talk Thread XVIII!

Postby Warbear » Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:42 pm

That tantrum wasn't really just from what was going on on Twitter, you know. That was pretty much built up from internet fights and people bashing him since he announced FEZ.
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Re: And the good lord sayeth: Come forth The Talk Thread XVIII!

Postby Whatis6times9 » Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:52 pm

It wasn't helped when the one guy started accusing him of abusing his ex. The guy deserves shit, but some of what was being thrown out at him was ridiculous. It wasn't helped that the "annoyed gamer" was upset over such a petty thing.
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Re: And the good lord sayeth: Come forth The Talk Thread XVIII!

Postby Warbear » Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:54 pm

He took basically the two most reclusive, weirdo indie developers and idiotically put pressure on them over something that's probably useless, considering indie games probably won't get any ad space on the Xbone's dashboard.
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Postby Whatis6times9 » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:13 pm

That and he and other "journalists" asked them to comment on a rumor. Why bother asking for a comment when you can wait on official news when everyone was just going to take quotes from twitter.

The funny thing about the whole "japanese games suck" thing was that even the japanese developer who asked it agreed with him when Fish gave more nuance. Japanese games have been treading over ground way too much even for his liking. Especially the large publishers.
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Re: And the good lord sayeth: Come forth The Talk Thread XVIII!

Postby Warbear » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:15 pm

I think the creator of Megaman was talking about how Japanese gaming is completely dwarfed by Western gaming these days.
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Re: And the good lord sayeth: Come forth The Talk Thread XVIII!

Postby Whatis6times9 » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:32 pm

Yeah, Inafune has said that he feels like Japan is about 5 years behind. The problem is that Capcom, Sega and Squeenix is they rely too much on old franchises and they pump too much money into something that has a limited audience audience. RE6 was a failure selling almost 5 million copies, FF13 has underperformed selling 6.6 over 3 years, which made Tomb Raider failing selling 3 million in a month really fucked up.
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Re: And the good lord sayeth: Come forth The Talk Thread XVIII!

Postby Grey » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:52 pm

the guy behind the modern zelda games says that zelda games are seeming easier because japanese gaming as a whole is getting easier
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Postby noxux » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:58 pm

They are easier now, it takes my one week to beat the game were link turns into a wolf but it took me two months to beat link to the past.
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Postby Whatis6times9 » Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:35 pm

But difficulty hasn't been the big gripe with Japanese games. The big problem is the way everything in the games feel cliched: story, characters, design, gameplay. Nothing feels innovative or even clever. If it wasn't for From Software, Platinum and Suda I wouldn't have played a single Japanese game this gen. Everything else seems like a cynical pandering whether it be to do as much fanservice as possible or trying to pander to American gamers.
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Re: And the good lord sayeth: Come forth The Talk Thread XVIII!

Postby Warbear » Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:39 pm

I think it's very telling when I, someone who used to exclusively play Nintendo games/JRPGs, now rarely plays a Nintendo game/a JRPG.
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Re: And the good lord sayeth: Come forth The Talk Thread XVIII!

Postby Warbear » Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:40 pm

Now everybody thank Swery for Deadly Premonition. Thank him.
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Re: And the good lord sayeth: Come forth The Talk Thread XVIII!

Postby Whatis6times9 » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:00 pm

And I'm not saying that American/Euro games are free of pandering. But there are more developers and publishers, so there's more risk taking and artistry. Between Rockstar, Valve, 2K, Bethesda, Telltale, even Squeenix Europe, there games seem like genuine pieces and not just pandering and picking up the lowest hanging fruit. The Japanese publisher I trust the most is Sony because they come across as genuinely conducive to allowing their devs freedom. Japanese publishers seem so hard pressed to pandering to American audiences for success, but what they don't realize that just making a great game that's properly budgeted and knows it's niche will generally be successful.
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Re: And the good lord sayeth: Come forth The Talk Thread XVIII!

Postby noxux » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:13 pm

How do I connect two harddrives? If I dont figure it out I will lose over 500 games and over 1000 of hours of playing and five years of collecting games.
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Re: And the good lord sayeth: Come forth The Talk Thread XVIII!

Postby Whatis6times9 » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:16 pm

Most computers allow you to hook multiple hardrives to the mother board.
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Re: And the good lord sayeth: Come forth The Talk Thread XVIII!

Postby noxux » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:21 pm

But how, do I need a special type of cable or anything out of this world?
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Re: And the good lord sayeth: Come forth The Talk Thread XVIII!

Postby Whatis6times9 » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:22 pm

I'm not doing over the forum tech support, google it.
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Re: And the good lord sayeth: Come forth The Talk Thread XVIII!

Postby noxux » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:05 am

This is how it feels to be banned by mods.
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Re: And the good lord sayeth: Come forth The Talk Thread XVIII!

Postby Exodis » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:07 am

Do you want to try it out?
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Re: And the good lord sayeth: Come forth The Talk Thread XVIII!

Postby Warbear » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:45 am

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Re: And the good lord sayeth: Come forth The Talk Thread XVIII!

Postby Asmodai » Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:16 am

Odd, a recent message on the Polytron website still states that they'll continue porting the original Fez to other devices... I thought only 2 people worked there? Phil and some other guy...

Also, the Bioshock Infinite DLC will send us back to Rapture! Before the whole civil war thing went down!



Pretty excited about this, since I liked Rapture so much more than Columbia
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