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Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:43 pm
Asmodai wrote:And that is why I dont draw on paper
not even to sketch shit out?
i don't like the idea that art will become an entirely digital medium.
Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:51 pm
I don't mind art being fully digital, I do feel like quite a number of people though do pick up some bad habits like all the web comic guys who copy paste facial features.
Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:52 pm
Fine art basically rejects digital so it'll always have it's place.
Digital art is just cheaper so it's better for professional work.
Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:55 pm
A theory of mine has been that art helps justify the technology.
Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:26 pm
i dislike sketching on paper, my hands shake too much and everything ends up looking so messy
Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:30 pm
stick valium up your arse
Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:43 pm
I've always had an issue with not having a steady hand when I draw... so I know how you feel Mir. But drawing on paper for me has always been nice. I like the feel of having full control over the piece.
Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:55 pm
I'm the opposite. I feel like my hand is steadier sketching on paper than it is when drawing on a tablet. I still can't draw crap with a tablet--I have to draw the picture on paper first, scan it in, then use the pen tool on an animation program I have to go over my lines, 'cause I can't even keep my hand steady enough to trace on a tablet. :<
Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:00 pm
It's all practice.
There's exercises you can do to build up better control.
Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:07 pm
I would appreciate some links.
Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:06 am
I searched but I can't find the tutorial again.
It involved making a * type stars in which you would use your whole arm to draw.
Doing this in straight lines to help build up control.
All I can remember other than that is that I found it somewhere on ConceptArt.org
Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:41 am
Dun dun dun!
Morpheus wrote:The inability to erase mistakes just makes it a better medium for learning.
Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:49 am
Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:13 am
Is that like some wonder eraser that get's rid of those smears that never seem to want to get off with traditional erasers? And does it erase ink mistakes too? Because that'd be wonderful. If not... Yeah :I
Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:13 am
ink erasers never erase the ink they just erase the paper.
Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:17 am
Either way, the mistake vanishes.
Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:19 am
Erasers aren't for ink, but if you want to draw in ink, why not just paint?
Also, if your pencil lines and smears don't get erased then clearly you've never used a professional eraser.
To be honest I don't know much about fine art, but my sister did quite a bit of it, so she had some good stuff on her often. You know. 12 different types of pencils, 3 different erasers, 3 types of paper, etc.
Her briefcase thingy with some sketches is still in my room. Mostly because it's so big. As in, ~80cmx110cm in size, with pieces of paper similar size inside. What is that even , A1? Or maybe A0.
Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:20 am
Hiryu wrote:Either way, the mistake vanishes.
and the picture is ruined. so not really useful.
Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:22 am
Yes, thank you. I didn't know that bit.
Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:23 am
obviously not or you wouldn't have said something so stupid
Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:25 am
Oh fuck off, you lil' cunt.
And I'm the one that takes things so seriously all the time.
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Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:25 am
Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:38 am
Q.U. wrote:Erasers aren't for ink, but if you want to draw in ink, why not just paint?
Because painting requires a ton more time and preparation. You need a space that you don't mind splashing with paint, you need to stand, have all the colors, mix 'em, clean the brushes constantly and requires an altogether different skill set.
Even then, there's things you can do with ink you can't do with paint.
Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:08 am
You can't always keep erasing.
Paper has a grit that helps graphite, stick.
The more you erase the more this grit is destroyed.
Which can be terrible if you are working in darker tones.
Also if you erase too much it stops working altogether.
But the eraser isn't just about getting rid of mistakes.
They're drawing tools that can produce certain effects.
Mr. Sefrol wrote:Is that like some wonder eraser that get's rid of those smears that never seem to want to get off with traditional erasers? And does it erase ink mistakes too? Because that'd be wonderful. If not... Yeah :I
Electric erasers can get rid of terrible mistakes at the price of grit.
Gum erasers work ok but there's tons of cleanup afterwards.
Kneaded erasers can smear alot but can be molded into any shape, blue tak can also be used for this.
Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:45 am
I swear by kneaded erasers. if you use the right ink they don't smear.
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