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As I said above, I don't want to start a flame war; you're welcome to challenge or disagree with anything I say. However, I do have a response:EagleMan wrote:Most constitutional professors, even most conservative ones, agreed that Obamacare had solid constitutional backing, whether or not they liked it on its merits. The fact it came so close is rather ridiculous.
Also Clarence is still a bit of a scumbag for not recusing himself from the case despite the fact that his wife is actively involved in an organization that wishes to repeal the ACA.
I don't much like Obamacare, given how much of a conservative idea it is, but it's a step in the right direction and better than nothing.
Typical. I make a simple observation and you can't help but insult and demean me. And what's with those Strawmen? Is that really the best you can do?NeoWarrior7 wrote:Oh, so you're against enforcing laws with violence too? Including the violent ones?
Honestly, I thought we covered taxes ages ago. And still you act like you'd rather be in a governmentless vacumn, where everyman is alone and where the strong crush the weak underfoot.
You utterly fail to see the value the taxes are paying for, then comparing to the disadvantages.
RuffDraft wrote:I don't know what you mean by "most" constitutional professors...That violates the Enumerated Powers clause.
RuffDraft wrote:Also, throughout the debates and discussions over the law... so I will have to read that before I completely understand what it is they meant.
RuffDraft wrote:As for this being a Conservative idea... if that were the case, the Conservatives would have come up with it, not the Liberals. And Liberals in congress would have been opposed to it for that very reason. Also it strongly violates many of the Conservative ideologies, including limited Federal government, so I'm not sure exactly where you see this as a "Conservative idea." Not to mention that this bill means that we, the Middle Class, will be seeing approximately twenty-two new taxes added on to our income.
RuffDraft wrote:I'm not sure if you see taxation the same way that I do, but isn't all tax just money that someone forces you to pay under threat of violence? How else would they enforce a law but with violence?
Getting back on track, the fact remains that Pres. Obama ran on a platform of not taxing the Middle Class. He vehemently denied that he was imposing a tax on anyone with the Individual Mandate.
EagleMan wrote:Most constitutional professors, even most conservative ones, agreed that Obamacare had solid constitutional backing, whether or not they liked it on its merits. The fact it came so close is rather ridiculous.