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 Post subject: Re: Megaupload is dead
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:56 pm 
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I know this is probably a bad time to butt in, but come on man, save the fucking porn! Porn sites are in danger too for uploading copyrighted hentai!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:22 pm 
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There are MUCH better places than Megaporn to get your porn.


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This has NOTHING to do with SOPA at all. Megaupload has been the shadiest thing on the net a long time now and I have been personally waiting for this to happen.


Nor did I say it did, the bullshit I was referring to was copyright enforcement that already exists. Megaupload has been in it's current tiff with Hollywood since their music video, which if you recall Universal had DMCA'd despite having no rights to do so. Everything about the already existing DMCA operates under the assumption that the accused is guilty until proven innocent and it has no provisions with in to prevent false accusations. From a legal perspective UMG could have all the content on the internet pulled down under the DMCA and the only thing they'd lose would be that the content would be restored when they it was discovered they didn't have rights to it all.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:04 pm 
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WiNg0o wrote:
There are MUCH better places than Megaporn to get your porn.


I know, it's just that...you know...some of the porn is copyrighted too.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:01 pm 
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Sentios wrote:
WiNg0o wrote:
This has NOTHING to do with SOPA at all. Megaupload has been the shadiest thing on the net a long time now and I have been personally waiting for this to happen.


Nor did I say it did, the bullshit I was referring to was copyright enforcement that already exists. Megaupload has been in it's current tiff with Hollywood since their music video, which if you recall Universal had DMCA'd despite having no rights to do so. Everything about the already existing DMCA operates under the assumption that the accused is guilty until proven innocent and it has no provisions with in to prevent false accusations. From a legal perspective UMG could have all the content on the internet pulled down under the DMCA and the only thing they'd lose would be that the content would be restored when they it was discovered they didn't have rights to it all.
UMG's legal argument is that they didn't issue a DMCA takedown request. According to them, youtube's system, which allows streamlined takedowns to avoid DMCA-related issues, is not formally part of DMCA and therefore their trolling is not legally abuse of DMCA. UMG can't just go at the entire internet with a proverbial hatchet and walk away scott free. I also suspect UMG may have been goading Megaupload into a lawsuit with the intention of using discovery to build a copyright violation case against Megaupload, but I don't know if that's possible because I don't know the legal process.

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 Post subject: Re: Megaupload is dead
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:51 pm 
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Rosso Rose wrote:
I know this is probably a bad time to butt in, but come on man, save the fucking porn! Porn sites are in danger too for uploading copyrighted hentai!

oh nooo, not the hentai!

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UMG's legal argument is that they didn't issue a DMCA takedown request. According to them, youtube's system, which allows streamlined takedowns to avoid DMCA-related issues, is not formally part of DMCA and therefore their trolling is not legally abuse of DMCA. UMG can't just go at the entire internet with a proverbial hatchet walk away scott free. I also suspect UMG may have been goading Megaupload into a lawsuit with the intention of using discovery to build a copyright violation case against Megaupload, but I don't know if that's possible because I don't know the legal process.


That may be but the function exists as a remedy to copyright violation. Further the abusers can not be reprimanded because they have the DMCA to fall back on, which still to my knowledge has no punishment for false allegations of copyright infringement.


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 Post subject: Re: Megaupload is dead
PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:03 pm 
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Sentios wrote:
spazmonkey wrote:
UMG's legal argument is that they didn't issue a DMCA takedown request. According to them, youtube's system, which allows streamlined takedowns to avoid DMCA-related issues, is not formally part of DMCA and therefore their trolling is not legally abuse of DMCA. UMG can't just go at the entire internet with a proverbial hatchet walk away scott free. I also suspect UMG may have been goading Megaupload into a lawsuit with the intention of using discovery to build a copyright violation case against Megaupload, but I don't know if that's possible because I don't know the legal process.


That may be but the function exists as a remedy to copyright violation. Further the abusers can not be reprimanded because they have the DMCA to fall back on, which still to my knowledge has no punishment for false allegations of copyright infringement.

According to my admittedly rushed google research, people alleging copyright infringement can get material taken down for about 2 weeks, but they leave themselves open for civil suits.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenz_v._Un ... Music_Corp.

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 Post subject: Re: Megaupload is dead
PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:31 am 
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If I'm not mistaken violators of the DMCA are considered criminal offenders, it's laughable that abusers of the DMCA would be civil offenders.


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 Post subject: Re: Megaupload is dead
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:17 pm 
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WiNg0o wrote:
Why do you guys give a fuck? Megaupload is terrible and the internet is better with it gone.

It depends what you want from a filesharing site.

1) If you had a free account, Megaupload would never delete your files, unlike say mediafire or rapidshare, which delete them if no one other than the uploader downloads the file for a few days.

I uploaded some stuff back in 2008 and it was still there in 2011, no other filesharing site would keep stuff this long.

2) It allowed huge-ass files to be hosted, too. I think 1 GB was the limit for a free member, other fileshering sites cap it at between 250 and 450 MB.

So yeah, for a guy who only or mostly just leeches it might not seem like a big loss, but for a guy who uploads some stuff, it's quite a shame.

With that said http://bayfiles.com from the pirate bay guys, is a pretty good replacement, doesn't have a megavideo equivalent as far as I know though.

And yeah, so Schmitz was a douche, big freaking whoop. Like I'm sure motherfucking RIAA lobbyists are bloody saints.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:10 am 
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Rosso Rose wrote:
I know this is probably a bad time to butt in, but come on man, save the fucking porn! Porn sites are in danger too for uploading copyrighted hentai!

Being in charge of porn at the patent office must be pretty fun.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:11 pm 
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Rival wrote:
1) If you had a free account, Megaupload would never delete your files, unlike say mediafire or rapidshare, which delete them if no one other than the uploader downloads the file for a few days.
Did you really check this with both sharing sites you mentioned? Because Mediafire is awesome.
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Considering both downloads were from the folks i gave the tutorial to, the same day it was uploaded, i don't think mediafire deletes files "in a few days".
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I uploaded some stuff back in 2008 and it was still there in 2011, no other filesharing site would keep stuff this long.
Mediafire.
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2) It allowed huge-ass files to be hosted, too. I think 1 GB was the limit for a free member, other fileshering sites cap it at between 250 and 450 MB.
We're talking about members right? If so, yeah, MEgaupload's limit was of a whopping 2GB.
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(Even though some of their "premium features" are available for normal members at Mediafire such as password protection, multi-upload, etc.)

Though i personally prefer people who split their files in 3 or 4 parts. Internet connections are bound to be flaky in places with lots of wind, rain, etc, and it sucks when you're downloading a large file and it comes corrupted due to interrupted internet connections.

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Not to mention MU stopped doing captchas.
Not so sure about the download limits because I've tried downloading 4 and more files in a row from MU using JDownloader, never stops. No breaks.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:32 am 
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Rival wrote:
1) If you had a free account, Megaupload would never delete your files, unlike say mediafire or rapidshare, which delete them if no one other than the uploader downloads the file for a few days.
Did you really check this with both sharing sites you mentioned? Because Mediafire is awesome.
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Considering both downloads were from the folks i gave the tutorial to, the same day it was uploaded, i don't think mediafire deletes files "in a few days".

"a few days" may be hyperbolizing it, but I did upload some Stanisław Bareja movies in xvid .avi, back in 2010 to mediafire, and after rechecking the links about 2 months later, they were taken down. Maybe if I had a mediafire folder, that'd have changed something, but I doubt it.

Also, I generally don't use mediafire, due to mostly sharing video files which are in 720p and those are usually above 200mb in filesize. The files I share are usually between 350-750MB.

I don't like splitting files and neither do people whom I share them with, Europeans, the quality of the connections is good here and most people I share with have Internet via cable anyway, so interrupted connections happen once in a blue moon.

Also, since you like mediafire so much, be aware that they are part of the investigation, too.

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