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Re: College Girl now the Chief.

Postby Mr. Froggy » Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:14 pm

zepherin wrote:There is always room for negotiation even when they hold all of the cards. Always remember criminals are generally stupid. They don't know all of the cards that you hold in her case she doesn't hold jack other than she has 10 or 15 people working with her and some body guards. If she negotiates from a position of strength she can get concessions out of the cartels and pretend she is giving up things in return when the reality of the situation is that anything she gets out of the cartels is a bonus. It is an incredibly useful skill to learn how to negotiate when you don't have squat, and the person you are negotiating with has the leverage. There will be a time when you will have to do something like this with an employer. It is almost guaranteed.


You forget that this is not a war of police vs. drug cartels, it's a war of drug cartels vs. drug cartels; the only options the people and government have are to provide or get out of the way. The violence is not going to stop until one cartel rains supreme; human trafficking and selling drugs to minors is just too much money to pass up, especially now when they have to pay for extra security/hit men and profits are running thin. Hell, drug cartel members have taken kidnapping and bank robbery as supplemental income.
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Re: College Girl now the Chief.

Postby zepherin » Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:13 pm

These are true statements, but having the police leave you alone means that a lot of money can be diverted, especially if the police give you a heads up about other cartels.
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Re: College Girl now the Chief.

Postby Mr. Froggy » Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:02 pm

zepherin wrote:These are true statements, but having the police leave you alone means that a lot of money can be diverted, especially if the police give you a heads up about other cartels.


The police can't choose between cartels, especially when either side can kill you just as easily. The police is stuck in the middle of the war, they know this and try to stay away as far as possible. The problem is not that some police officers are trying to stop the drug cartels, it's that both drug cartels want the police behind them. It's a loose/loose scenario, where you have to pick one of the sides and the other kills you. It's not all the police who's in this situation, only key players; the problem is that there has to be some one on the payroll to help with the heads ups and escorts, etc... so there's always someone to kill. As soon as the key players are dead, new ones are found, then later killed. Scrub, rinse, repeat.
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Re: College Girl now the Chief.

Postby zepherin » Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:12 am

The police can choose between cartels. You pick the one that has the most influence in your area and as part of the services your department offers is a heads up when a new member walks into town. If the cartel says it is one of theirs you update your files.

I think the most practical solution for the government is to grow their own drugs. Grow it on such a massive scale and corporatise it. Then turn the border towns into something like a New Amsterdam like system. It'll pretty much wreck the drug economy because corporations do it cheaper and more efficiently than criminal organizations. And corporations know how to protect themselves against illicit organizations. Shit Debears operates in areas that are far worst than anything Mexico could have ever dreamed up and nobody in those areas fucks with them, and for good reason. Make it so that competition brings the margin down to a hairline in Mexico and all the Gringos come in to buy their drugs take the risk when they try to smuggle it back. Juarez will be the new capital of North America drug tourism.
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